Stoner/DOOM Bassists thread part 36 - Old School Death Metal Wannabes

[The_Janitor]

This is pretty doom: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bass-Fretles...item1e74bab984

Or pretty ugly, I can't decide.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Hey Corey - You've got a Traynor YBA series head right? Which one? Do you use it for guitar or bass?

I have a yba-1. It's my primary bass amp, but I've used it for guitar before and it's great with pedals.

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Get a Joyo AC Tone, it's an AC30 in a box for like 50$.


So I think I'm finally gonna be done with bass pedal GAS come next week, my last 2 pedals are finally coming in. Now its time to curb the cab and bass GAS......

Oh, sweet, I'll have to check that out.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

I have a yba-1. It's my primary bass amp, but I've used it for guitar before and it's great with pedals.

Cool, I keep seeing YBA amps for cheap online and it has me tempted. Even though I'm broke.

It's 100W, right? That's enough for bass in a loud doom band?

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Cool, I keep seeing YBA amps for cheap online and it has me tempted. Even though I'm broke.

It's 100W, right? That's enough for bass in a loud doom band?

YBA-1 is closer to 50 watts, the YBA-1A is around 90W. The bigger version YBA-3 is 100-120W and the YBA-3A (which is very rare) 300W

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by bassboysam

YBA-1 is closer to 50 watts, the YBA-1A is around 90W. The bigger version YBA-3 is 100-120W and the YBA-3A (which is very rare) 300W

Alright, that helps. It's surprisingly hard to find specs for these amps. The company I work for has the YBA200-2, it's a new model but it looks pretty sweet. It's certainly affordable for a new 200W tube amp. I'd like something that can pull double duty on guitar and bass.

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

A treat for your Floor/Torche/Cavity fans: Anyone heard of Dove?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-h_A...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xqi...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxtT...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LejQ0...feature=relmfu

It's the not Steve but the rest of floor right?

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Alright, that helps. It's surprisingly hard to find specs for these amps. The company I work for has the YBA200-2, it's a new model but it looks pretty sweet. It's certainly affordable for a new 200W tube amp. I'd like something that can pull double duty on guitar and bass.

depending on your cab and how clean or dirty you want your bass tone to be, the YBA-1 could do it. I owned the first version of the YBA200 and it was ok but it always sounded a little wimpy. the YBA300 has a lot more depth and punch. i don't think either would sound good with guitar though. I let my guitar player borrow my YBA-3 for a while and it was one of the best guitar tones i ever heard.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

It's the not Steve but the rest of floor right?

No Steve, but Henry Wilson on guitar/vocals with "Josh" on bass and "John" on drums. Not sure what other bands those guys were in and I can't find their last names right now.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by bassboysam

depending on your cab and how clean or dirty you want your bass tone to be, the YBA-1 could do it. I owned the first version of the YBA200 and it was ok but it always sounded a little wimpy. the YBA300 has a lot more depth and punch. i don't think either would sound good with guitar though. I let my guitar player borrow my YBA-3 for a while and it was one of the best guitar tones i ever heard.

More good info, thanks Sam! It's all just bored gas-fueled speculative fantasy at this point, but I'll probably pick one up at some point in the future.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Cool, I keep seeing YBA amps for cheap online and it has me tempted. Even though I'm broke.

It's 100W, right? That's enough for bass in a loud doom band?

It's listed at 45 watts, it has two EL34 power tubes. It's plenty loud through my 810, just not pristine clean. Which I don't want anyway. I've gigged with it alongside two guitar fullstacks. It's actually REALLY loud, it's packing some big iron. The yba-1A is a bit louder or maybe just has a bit more headroom.

[change-jug]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Anyone doing any Black Friday shopping today? I hate all that crap, but Guitar Center is usually not crazy and I've typically gone there on most Black Fridays. However I don't need anything right now so I'm not going anywhere.

I don`t think I`ve ever gone out shopping on black friday. Although I am spending my day off(I took a 4 day weekend!) trolling the internet looking for deals.
Actually I just got a amazon prime membership(trial) so I`m going to try and get as much of my shopping done thru amazon.
I`ve been buying most of my stuff thru amazon the past few years but I normally use the free super shipping option. I turned my girlfriend onto amazon and now she`s been using it a lot too.

Found a copy of The Sword`s God`s of the Earth cd in my collection. I forgot I even had that album so today I`m just enjoying a lost treasure and an empty house.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

It's listed at 45 watts, it has two EL34 power tubes. It's plenty loud through my 810, just not pristine clean. Which I don't want anyway. I've gigged with it alongside two guitar fullstacks. It's actually REALLY loud, it's packing some big iron. The yba-1A is a bit louder or maybe just has a bit more headroom.

That's interesting, I wonder why 70's Watts are more powerful than modern watts. Same with the old SS stuff from Sunn or Acoustic. Put one toe-to-toe with a modern amp of the same configuration adn rating and the results are surprisingly different.

[Lowest End]

Heading in to Manhattan for the afternoon. I'm planning on hitting Rudy's music and trying out some basses I'll never be able to afford. Fun!

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

That's interesting, I wonder why 70's Watts are more powerful than modern watts. Same with the old SS stuff from Sunn or Acoustic. Put one toe-to-toe with a modern amp of the same configuration adn rating and the results are surprisingly different.

I think it probably has mostly to do with using really hefty transformers. There is something to be said though for how much people overestimate the volume increase with additional wattage on amps and underestimate the additional volume of more (and more efficient) speakers.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

I think it probably has mostly to do with using really hefty transformers. There is something to be said though for how much people overestimate the volume increase with additional wattage on amps and underestimate the additional volume of more (and more efficient) speakers.

I just discussed this my boss over lunch, he's somewhat of an electronics/recording/tube-n-tape mad scientist. His guess was speaker efficiency and possibly transformers. When power was limited, speakers had to be more efficient. As power gets cheaper and wattage ratings increase, the need for efficiency has diminished. That's his guess anyway.

Edit: I guess that theory doesn't really hold up when you consider that plugging an old head into a new cab will still probably yield more volume. Or, are most people with old heads using vintage cabs as well? My ****'s all new, so I don't know. Though I used to have a 40W Sunn Sentura II that would rattle the hell out of the ventilation system at my parent's place with the volume on 3...

[Bur]

High, dudes! Wish you health & wealth! I'm the new on the block. Just registered here. So let me introduce myself! Tell me what is your stuff, and I'll tell you who you are... So some stuff you can check in the profile & in some live videos of bands I'm in. Specially check KHARMS, we run two basses there without guitars... Started giging this autumn...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImqGFBDKo9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGBKjfeO8os
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaLWG-_D5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouNlK...endscreen&NR=1


As you could see: girls are shy - amateurs But dudes are allright, with plenty of bad habits...

Cheers!

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by Bur

High, dudes! Wish you health & wealth! I'm the new on the block. Just registered here. So let me introduce myself! Tell me what is your stuff, and I'll tell you who you are... So some stuff you can check in the profile & in some live videos of bands I'm in. Specially check KHARMS, we run two basses there without guitars... Started giging this autumn...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImqGFBDKo9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGBKjfeO8os



As you could see: girls are shy - amateurs But dudes are allright, with plenty of bad habits...

Cheers!

Welcome to the best thread on TalkBass. Good to see we got some russian musicians up in here!

[Hutzbordello]

so i saw Om tuesday. Al was amazing and used the usual svt and 8x10. He had two smaller boxes next the cab and my friends think they were subwoofers but i have no idea. Has anyone seen these?

He had more pedals than i thought he would but couldnt get a good look at it due to big monitors.

Also going to high on fire saturday, minds will be blown.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by Hutzbordello

so i saw Om tuesday. Al was amazing and used the usual svt and 8x10. He had two smaller boxes next the cab and my friends think they were subwoofers but i have no idea. Has anyone seen these?

He had more pedals than i thought he would but couldnt get a good look at it due to big monitors.

Also going to high on fire saturday, minds will be blown.

I believe the conclusion we came to was they were a 1x15 and a 4x10 both powered by 500w SS ampeg micro amps.

[Hutzbordello]

the pf-500's?

Would they be for distorted signals maybe? (tell me to do a search if this is annoying anyone plz ty)