Stoner/DOOM Bassists thread part 36 - Old School Death Metal Wannabes

[Moloch666]

Hokay, 6 pages of catching up and a few replies to things and I'm back up to date...

Originally Posted by Fuzzbassian

It's got it's ups and downs.It's definitely a pricey venue,but I have had some pretty darn good nights there.They put on a fair bit of stoner rock stuff (FFUUUUU MMMANNNCCHHUUU).A little birdy also tells me truckfighters will be playing there in may next year.

They had EyeHateGod,Tumbleweed,Dern Rutlidge and My Left Boot at this festival,in terms of stoner rock.
The thing about the festivals they put on there,is that they put beer prices through the roof - $7.50 for a can of carlton draught!

I thought I'd seen something about EHG playing Cherry Bar over the weekend, but I was broke and had my kid so I wasn't going anywhere! Can't believe $7.50 for a bloody Carlton can though.

Originally Posted by father of fires

So…here’s a quick poll. Do you guys have cable? Is it worth it to you? Do you just have it because you're supposed to?

I have been slowly going insane the last 3 months living with my parents and the almost dialup internet connection they have. Still trying to get them to update to an ADSL2 connection. As for TV/cable - I download all my TV shows, my PC monitor is a TV and no antenna hookup.

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

So what would you do if you had basically a whole band set up, singer+guitarist+drummer+bassist, everyone's good and gets along and knows their parts and sounds good and you have around an hour of finished material, BUT your singer suddenly gets a new job and is only free for practice/gigs on Saturdays?

We pretty much only jam Saturday afternoons as that's the only time when we're all free - drummer works nights and the rest of us work weekdays. Majority of our gigs are Saturday nights also, rarely play any other night.

Originally Posted by Corey Y

Do yourself a favor and get it mastered separately, by a professional mastering engineer. I've used Carl Saff for my last few projects and he does excellent work across a lot of different genres. Seriously, I could type out a 1,000 word essay about why bands should get proper mastering done on their albums. Generally speaking professional mastering engineers usually also record and mix, but even they rarely or never master things they recorded and mixed. For no other reason than having a fresh pair of ears on the project, if you don't buy that there's a craft to mastering that's different than mixing beyond making it loud (there is). It's one of my top 5 rants.

Very yes. The fresh ears principle is a must. Mastering needs to be more than raise the level TO THE MAXX! as that's all most people think it is these days. I missed the last recording session for our EP, got a text message saying "We're all done, starting mastering now". 30 minutes late "Mastering done!". Nearly threw my phone across the room.

Volume wars are stupid, I like dynamics. I also like it when people get training in a particular craft and make the most of it rather than get trained as a mixer with limited understanding of mastering and crank all the levels into a limiter...

So anyways, now that's all done...
Might be scoring an Ibanez V - no idea on age/model/condition, but it's free so I may have another weapon on my hands which will be nice.

Not enjoying work today, need more coffee!

[Moloch666]

Also, just wanted to say I love you guys in here. The rest of TB is stupid.

[Niff]

Originally Posted by Moloch666

Also, just wanted to say I love you guys in here. The rest of TB is stupid.

qft, it is painful visiting other threads.

fuzzbassian - rob bringing over truckfighters eh? haha.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by Moloch666

Also, just wanted to say I love you guys in here. The rest of TB is stupid.

I was debating whether or not to run a bunch of guitar pedalboard/rig ideas past you guys. If you think the rest of TB is bad...wander over to TGP for guitar discussion.

[OldCrow]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

I was debating whether or not to run a bunch of guitar pedalboard/rig ideas past you guys. If you think the rest of TB is bad...wander over to TGP for guitar discussion.

I'm game, at some point I'm going to get a side project together and pick up the guitar again. At some point...

[Moloch666]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

I was debating whether or not to run a bunch of guitar pedalboard/rig ideas past you guys. If you think the rest of TB is bad...wander over to TGP for guitar discussion.

Have only ever gone on TGP for their For Sale section. Never ventured into the forums...

What's these guitar pedalboard ideas then?

[Corey Y]

I'm starting to put more thought into guitar, now that I'm working on new original material on my own. If it ever gets to the point of becoming a full gigging band, I'm going to play bass, but I still want to craft the tones and record the guitars myself for now. I'm figuring out the rigs I want to use for recording the guitars, based off the modeling setups I've been using for the demo. I've been using my Gibson Les Paul Custom with a Bareknuckle Warpig in the bridge. Just doing bridge pickup for one track, middle position for the other. Here's the proposed pedalboard setups:

Guitar 1: FET overdrive > Muff based fuzz > Tech 21 British > analog delay w/ low cut
Most of the gain is going to be from the OD, with only some moderate gain on the fuzz.

Guitar 2: Muff based fuzz > high gain distortion > Tech 21 Liverpool > tape style delay
The gain on the fuzz is going to be almost all the way off for this one, I think, around 9 o'clock max. Most of the gain will be from the distortion, which I think will have to be something RAT based or at least very thick, but articulate.

I already have quite a few pedals, so I don't anticipate having to buy a lot of new stuff. Although if I can raise the funds, always fun to try out new gear. No matter what I still need to buy the Tech 21 British and the tape style delay. The rest I could manage, but it might eat into my bass pedalboard a bit or what I have just might not be the best possible fit. I'd like to pick up a new overdrive and a new fuzz if I can justify the expense. I'm not even concerned about the amp and cab situation yet. I have a Carvin X100B, which has a great non master volume clean channel that would be a great palate to build on, plus it's got a 25/50/100 power scaling feature. I've also got my Fender Princeton Reverb Re-Issue and a DIY 1x12 for quick changing speakers is my next DIY project. I still have a Celestion 60 loaded 2x12 and G12-75 loaded 4x12 (which I'm not a huge fan of anymore). I'm probably going to go with greenbacks for both rigs on the speaker side of things.

The Les Paul is the only guitar I have in baritone tuning right now (I have an SG and a Strat in standard), I might pickup a Carvin guitar at some point and have it set up in baritone. I really like their gear in general, I've been wanting to try out their guitars for a while now.

I was thinking about just picking up a stable of Tech 21 pedals. They're a really underrated brand, I think. I read a lot of negative reviews of their products, but they come off like being from people that don't really know how to use gear effectively to me. Different strokes though. I've been listening to Bret Kingman's demos of the Boost Overdrive, Fuzz and Distortion and any of them could probably get the job done for this project. Some of the other contenders are the Walrus Iron Horse distortion, Jupiter fuzz and Voyager overdrive. Also some Wampler stuff, the faux tape echo, Leviathan fuzz and Paisely Drive. I will mostly likely run through everything I have first to see if anything fits the bill. However, if I can actually get my SVT CL and a few other things sold, I will be able to pick up at least a few new pedals early next year I think.

[Corey Y]

I use TGP's classifieds quite a bit, but I rarely post on the forum much. The blues lawyer vibe is strong there. There's probably some good threads, like here, but I haven't paid much attention to playing guitar in the past 4 years.

[mc_muench]

The Warwick is sold!!! We met at a local music store, and obviously I looked around but I was successful in not spending money. Played some cool stuff too, I played a SVT VR into a Mesa 6x10, I wasnt able to crank it obviously but I could tell that rig could crush.

Basses I played in order of how much I liked them.
1)99 Warwick Thumb, that baseball bat neck and growl that had was just sooooo...Warwick
2)Gibson Flying V bass, fat neck, was really comfortable to play sitting down with the bottom horn between your legs
3)70's Guild Jetstar, I'm a sucker for Guild, had mojo up the wazoo
4)Fender bass VI custom shop reissue, someday I'll own a Bass VI type guitar
5-6)2 70's Rics, both had small necks, not my style




If you guys are ever in Milwaukee, please go check out Cream City Music, the walls are lined with amazing old guitars, have a pretty good stock of basses too. They are a Warwick dealer as well, only one I know of.

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

Sounds cool, I made this while I was listening to it...

Robocop?

[Fuzzbassian]

Originally Posted by Niff

qft, it is painful visiting other threads.

fuzzbassian - rob bringing over truckfighters eh? haha.

Well,I migrated from the bass section of ultimate guitar.That place was pretty slow.I did try and make a some what entertaining thread of my new bass day,but some people take the internet WAY too seriously.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was Rob.He brings all the cool **** out.But yes,I've heard from 3 different sources that Truckfighters will be coming in May for Cherry rock.

The bloke from Tumlbeweed also mentioned something the other day about touring with Sabbath.This gets me excited in all sorts of places.The lady friends mum just bought two tickets for the front row,and has swapped with us for our seats in the stands near the back.Needless to say,I listened to alot of Black Sabbath last night.

Moloch- Cherryfest was definitely not worth $90 plus exorbitant beer prices.I only went because I got in free.Here's the review I did
http://smalltowndisease.blogspot.com...fest-2012.html

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

Robocop?

Yep, Bur's band is called "Clarence Boddicker". Robocop is one of my favorite movies of all time, so it was pretty easy to get my artistic gears turning on that one. I would love to make a flyer or album cover or something with that. I had HHIG style album art in my head while listening, for some reason.

[OldCrow]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

I'm starting to put more thought into guitar, now that I'm working on new original material on my own. If it ever gets to the point of becoming a full gigging band, I'm going to play bass, but I still want to craft the tones and record the guitars myself for now. I'm figuring out the rigs I want to use for recording the guitars, based off the modeling setups I've been using for the demo. I've been using my Gibson Les Paul Custom with a Bareknuckle Warpig in the bridge. Just doing bridge pickup for one track, middle position for the other. Here's the proposed pedalboard setups:

Guitar 1: FET overdrive > Muff based fuzz > Tech 21 British > analog delay w/ low cut
Most of the gain is going to be from the OD, with only some moderate gain on the fuzz.

Guitar 2: Muff based fuzz > high gain distortion > Tech 21 Liverpool > tape style delay
The gain on the fuzz is going to be almost all the way off for this one, I think, around 9 o'clock max. Most of the gain will be from the distortion, which I think will have to be something RAT based or at least very thick, but articulate.

I already have quite a few pedals, so I don't anticipate having to buy a lot of new stuff. Although if I can raise the funds, always fun to try out new gear. No matter what I still need to buy the Tech 21 British and the tape style delay. The rest I could manage, but it might eat into my bass pedalboard a bit or what I have just might not be the best possible fit. I'd like to pick up a new overdrive and a new fuzz if I can justify the expense. I'm not even concerned about the amp and cab situation yet. I have a Carvin X100B, which has a great non master volume clean channel that would be a great palate to build on, plus it's got a 25/50/100 power scaling feature. I've also got my Fender Princeton Reverb Re-Issue and a DIY 1x12 for quick changing speakers is my next DIY project. I still have a Celestion 60 loaded 2x12 and G12-75 loaded 4x12 (which I'm not a huge fan of anymore). I'm probably going to go with greenbacks for both rigs on the speaker side of things.

The Les Paul is the only guitar I have in baritone tuning right now (I have an SG and a Strat in standard), I might pickup a Carvin guitar at some point and have it set up in baritone. I really like their gear in general, I've been wanting to try out their guitars for a while now.

I was thinking about just picking up a stable of Tech 21 pedals. They're a really underrated brand, I think. I read a lot of negative reviews of their products, but they come off like being from people that don't really know how to use gear effectively to me. Different strokes though. I've been listening to Bret Kingman's demos of the Boost Overdrive, Fuzz and Distortion and any of them could probably get the job done for this project. Some of the other contenders are the Walrus Iron Horse distortion, Jupiter fuzz and Voyager overdrive. Also some Wampler stuff, the faux tape echo, Leviathan fuzz and Paisely Drive. I will mostly likely run through everything I have first to see if anything fits the bill. However, if I can actually get my SVT CL and a few other things sold, I will be able to pick up at least a few new pedals early next year I think.

Needs more fuzz! Gain is so application specific and personal that I'll just leave it at that.

Also highly recommend the Boss DD7 if you're on a budget for delay, if not Boss RE-20 and EQD Ghost Disaster are my favorite delays, and that's over the Boss DM-2 and DM-3 I've owned. I'm gassing hard for the Catalinbread Echorec clone

[bassboysam]

Speaking of artwork.

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

Yep, Bur's band is called "Clarence Boddicker". Robocop is one of my favorite movies of all time, so it was pretty easy to get my artistic gears turning on that one. I would love to make a flyer or album cover or something with that. I had HHIG style album art in my head while listening, for some reason.

Didn't realize that was the characters name, LOL

[beebassdude]

Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

Didn't realize that was the characters name, LOL

TIGERS ARE PLAYING BU BUMP! TONIGHT! i never miss a game!

[dunwichamps]

Bass DI Shipping tomorrow

[mc_muench]

clips or will we have to wait until Ancient gets his hands on it?

[dunwichamps]

i put a few up already, http://soundcloud.com/new05002

[mc_muench]

sounds really good!