Stoner/DOOM Bassists thread part 37: Ancient Alien Fuzz - Page 45

Ancient Tone · #**881** 12-05-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jasohall

I love all the right angle bends in the wires, and that cluster of grey squares around the depth knob. Reminds me of stonehenge.

*starts wiking electronic stuff so brain can understand

Right angle bends are due to him using solid core wires, theres no strands so you can bend it and it stays in that form. The "stonehenge" is the 12 way FAC control, the bigger the grey square the more bass it adds

I love looking at everything he builds, definitely the cleanest builder I've seen. It's funny last night me and him were talking, I own the most amount of Dunwich gear ATM.... I think i've achieved "fanboi" status....

Toastfuzz · #**882** 12-05-2012, 07:21 AM

Morning dudes. Coffee is hitting ze spot today.

So last night I opened up the Ray35 and did some hackin at the stock electronics with my shiny new $14 Amazon soldering iron. Figured out a clean way to disconnect the preamp from the pickup, set up the coils in parallel and wired the hot straight into the output jack. Results were surprising and very satisfying!

http://www.soundcloud.com/toastfuzz/...ive-to-passive

I recorded 3 clips in active mode, then 3 clips in passive: first clean in, then Rusty Box, then Grey Stache -> Rusty Box. Recording direct into PC through M-Audio interface. Fingerstyle in Drop B tuning.

The active clips are parallel mode, max volume, flat EQ (at center detents)

Passive clips are direct pickup to output jack in parallel coil setup.

Pretty surprised the output wasn't any lower in passive mode and the tone was very full range but didn't seem to lose any bass. Definitely has some additional high end as Ancient Tone mentioned a few pages back, but it seems really easy to dial it out at the pedal and amp stages. First impression, I love it because it has the exact Stingray sound I was going after, but without always hearing the preamp kind of squashing it. Seemed no matter how I set the pre, the bass was woofier than I wanted, midrange honkier than I wanted, and treble had a click/envelope effect. Just sounded artificial when cranked up to high volume. The 1-trick-pony passive tone just sounds more... natural I guess. And immediately I found that the Grey Stache and Rusty Box sounded better pretty much any way I set em, where before different settings would be fighting the bass pre.

I started jammin around with a thin guitar pick and the Rusty and it sounded bad-A so I recorded some of that too: bass is pretty nonexistent with that pick I was using.

http://www.soundcloud.com/toastfuzz/...-thin-pick-jam

Ancient Tone · #**883** 12-05-2012, 07:39 AM

I will try and listen to those as soon as i can /\ At work today all i hear is the chorus of impact wrenches and air hammers....

JoeVictim · #**884** 12-05-2012, 07:53 AM

My phone doesn't even show your post, Toast... I'll listen when I can, but I think I already know

**bassboysam** · #**885** 12-05-2012, 07:53 AM

How do you like the Rusty Box? Ever compare it to a Rat?

Lazarus.Bird · #**886** 12-05-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

that is fugly, but cool at the same time.

Fugly?! Maybe I'm partial to it because those were my high school colors. But for me, that color scheme of unified body/headstock with all black hardware can do no wrong. It's just like my Ric but red and fretless.

JoeVictim · #**887** 12-05-2012, 08:01 AM

Did I freak people out of the thread?

Lazarus.Bird · #**888** 12-05-2012, 08:02 AM

So what exactly is that Wizard Fuzz? Is it a muff or something else?

father of fires · #**889** 12-05-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

How do you like the Rusty Box? Ever compare it to a Rat?

Different worlds. What do you want out of either of them?

Ancient Tone · #**890** 12-05-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

So what exactly is that Wizard Fuzz? Is it a muff or something else?

It's basically the preamp of his Wizard amp in pedal form, it's a high gain fuzz w/ fac and bax eq (i believe).

Toastfuzz · #**891** 12-05-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Did I freak people out of the thread?

I plan on listening to your stuff when I'm outta work too haha. Gawd we are white collar losers. Actually I need to sit down and devote an hour to liking everyone's FB band pages and following everyone's Soundclouds. I have a sporatic mishmash of stuff right now... but I emailed Laz's master list to myself a few days ago, so plan on getting on it.

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

How do you like the Rusty Box? Ever compare it to a Rat?

Rusty Box is a super useful little tool. I dont run it when I have my Acoustic amp, but always put it in front of either the clean Peavey or clean Carvin set flat-ish. It makes a solid easy-adjustable clean tone or grindy tone, and the EQ wrangles fuzz nicely when I pump the Grey Stache into it. Can take tons of input without clipping (12v adaptor helps there I guess?) and can output enough to drive a power amp. Once my Acoustic amp is dependably back in my hands, I think I'm gonna swap the clean Carvin for a high-watt power amp, and keep the Rusty + power amp as my go-to backup rig.

It doesn't deliver the same full-sounding distortion that you'd get out of a Rat, but I guess its comparable to a Rat at low gain settings. But my basic vintage Rat clone sucks bass so its purely used for guitar, the Rusty's EQ makes it very bass friendly (my Rusty EQ settings always cut treble and pump bass and mids.)

JoeVictim · #**892** 12-05-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

I plan on listening to your stuff when I'm outta work too haha. Gawd we are white collar losers. Actually I need to sit down and devote an hour to liking everyone's FB band pages and following everyone's Soundclouds. I have a sporatic mishmash of stuff right now... but I emailed Laz's master list to myself a few days ago, so plan on getting on it....

Thanks. I was about to listen on my Galaxy 3, but it didn't register your post. lol. Stupid smart phone.

I was worried I ran people off. But if any group on TB could handle a little Pater Noster backwards, it's this group.

Damn, I was telling my drummer we should get lasers and fog machines. He was like, uh....maybe next time.

dozicusmaximus · #**893** 12-05-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Did I freak people out of the thread?

I liked it. Out of the songs on your soundcloud to play after the intro, I think you picked the right one

**DethByDoom** · #**894** 12-05-2012, 08:57 AM

http://houston.craigslist.org/msg/3442715353.html

Is it me or is he asking for a bit too much?

sledz · #**895** 12-05-2012, 08:58 AM

On ebay these go often for less than 2k.

**bassboysam** · #**896** 12-05-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by father of fires

Different worlds. What do you want out of either of them?

looking for a hard grindy kind of distortion. not fuzzy though, which is why i did not end up keeping the Rat Tail. in the mix it just sounded like another fuzz pedal.

ampegfuzz · #**897** 12-05-2012, 09:01 AM

I got my '78 for $1555 shipped and my super clean '79 for $1400

ampegfuzz · #**898** 12-05-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

looking for a hard grindy kind of distortion. not fuzzy though, which is why i did not end up keeping the Rat Tail. in the mix it just sounded like another fuzz pedal.

I should of have gave you my amp and ped settings to try before you sold your second one.

dozicusmaximus · #**899** 12-05-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

looking for a hard grindy kind of distortion. not fuzzy though, which is why i did not end up keeping the Rat Tail. in the mix it just sounded like another fuzz pedal.

Like an HM-2....

Or more like Aguilar Agro type thing?

**DethByDoom** · #**900** 12-05-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ampegfuzz

I got my '78 for $1555 shipped and my super clean '79 for $1400

Yeah. Thought so. **** that guy.