Stoner/DOOM Bassists thread part 38: The Father, The Son, and The Holy Smoke.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Lowest End

So this was quite a coincidence. My band was talking about approaching another band to do a split release. They just put something out this summer so I wasn't sure if they'd be interested, but we figured we'd ask.


Well, on Friday, that very band approached us to do a split release.

How did the show go? (firday? I think...)

[Jason Hall]

Morning/afternoon doomers, swamped here at work but wanted to say hello at least. My mom was asking me about the El Oso on my christmas list this weekend... I think she may be putting one in my stocking, ooOoOo. Wish I had some more cash to throw around for what I need but the holidays are killing me. Too much family man.

Still loving the Sterling Sub. It's become my go to bass now. I hope this honeymoon never ends :P. Last night I had my volume at 5 on my amp and it started to walk backwards because I didn't have it on the carpet and I think I knocked some plaster down from the cieling. My guitarist told me he was shaking his energy drink cans which were across the room on a table. My other basses at the same volume doesn't have near that kind of output.

[Corey Y]

I'm home from vacation and back to work. I skimmed over the end of the old thread and this one here and there on my phone, when I had a few minutes to myself (read: on the toilet).

I had my two new Tech 21 character series pedals waiting for me when I got home, British and Liverpool. I spent some time yesterday playing around with them and some of the fuzz and overdrive pedals I have laying around, seeing if I could within spitting distance of the guitar tones I had already recorded direct. I think I can get there fine a muff variant and an OCD or RAT, more pedal purchases are forthcoming though I think.

I didn't get a chance to go to Bass Direct, unfortunately. We did pretty much every square inch of Disneyworld and The Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Universal and never really took any time off. My blisters are just about healed after resting over the weekend.

[dozicusmaximus]

We'll the drummer was actually there at practice. We were jammin some cool stuff then other new guitarist starts play some metoollica riffs. The other 3 of us just stare at him like *** dude?
My patience is wearing thin. I'm all for having some different stuff to make the music more interesting. So I was trying to fit it with what we were doing, which wouldn't be that hard (add another chord so we could shift into a different riff after his). Then new guitarist got all weird about it. It's a weak ass Orion rip-off anyway.
Also he got all condescending on me when I suggested that when he starts his wank fest the drummer and I need to have to figure something out.
Then after we were wrappin it up, he mentioned something about a singer... ugh.
We need some f-ing songs written and executed well before we even think about getting a singer. At this rate will be next winter. I'm too impatient for this sometimes.

My numero uno (guitarist) are on the same page and we have an idea for a direction, finally.haha. I think we may have to make a move on that soon. I don't know. I'm confused. hahaha.

Plus side, I was ripping out some cool one finger drop tuned power chord beastly sludge riffs. New guitarist hopped on bass (his bass and practice amp, my stuff is too big for his condo/apt). He told me to turn down. I said welcome to my world. hahaha.

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

We'll the drummer was actually there at practice. We were jammin some cool stuff then other new guitarist starts play some metoollica riffs. The other 3 of us just stare at him like *** dude?
My patience is wearing thin. I'm all for having some different stuff to make the music more interesting. So I was trying to fit it with what we were doing, which wouldn't be that hard (add another chord so we could shift into a different riff after his). Then new guitarist got all weird about it. It's a weak ass Orion rip-off anyway.
Also he got all condescending on me when I suggested that when he starts his wank fest the drummer and I need to have to figure something out.
Then after we were wrappin it up, he mentioned something about a singer... ugh.
We need some f-ing songs written and executed well before we even think about getting a singer. At this rate will be next winter. I'm too impatient for this sometimes.

My numero uno (guitarist) are on the same page and we have an idea for a direction, finally.haha. I think we may have to make a move on that soon. I don't know. I'm confused. hahaha.

Plus side, I was ripping out some cool one finger drop tuned power chord beastly sludge riffs. New guitarist hopped on bass (his bass and practice amp, my stuff is too big for his condo/apt). He told me to turn down. I said welcome to my world. hahaha.

Sounds like it's time to DTMFA.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

Sounds like it's time to DTMFA.

Agreed, if 3 of you are on the same page and one is obviously looking for something different then let the bird fly free. Who "needs" two guitarists anyways....

[dunwichamps]

Dropping some local tunes here.

http://cursetheson.bandcamp.com/

This one features the old green wizard amp I built

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAGB4YqMRQs

[dozicusmaximus]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Agreed, if 3 of you are on the same page and one is obviously looking for something different then let the bird fly free. Who "needs" two guitarists anyways....

Unfortunately the drummer is the new guitarists buddy and he'll probably stay with him. Which isn't a big deal. He's using my kit... haha. I'll give it a few more practices and lay out the cards on the table next weekend.
I wanna write some f-ing tunes, play time is over.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

Unfortunately the drummer is the new guitarists buddy and he'll probably stay with him. Which isn't a big deal. He's using my kit... haha. I'll give it a few more practices and lay out the cards on the table next weekend.
I wanna write some f-ing tunes, play time is over.

Gotcha, one thing i have definitely noticed when forming bands is that you have to have a goal in mind and that needs to be out in the open. If your looking to start a slow riff laden sludgey doom band and someone new comes in make sure they understand that and let them make the choice of whether or not they want to be a part of that. Because if you give in and start making concessions for him you'll soon find yourself un happy with the music your creating, and question if its worth it. Just let him know what your guys desired end result is and if he wants to do it let him know you guys are willing to try out different stuff but he needs to not get butthurt if his ideas get vetoed, and that vetoing works both ways if theres something he doesnt like he needs to speak up. Everyone in the band needs to feel like they are an equal part, and that if it has to come down to it then have a band vote and majority wins. If he gets butthurt at that offer then he is not worth playing with it will only cause issues in the future.

[twhitedc]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

No problem! You said you have a pedal train board right? I'd start with an ISO5, its not the cheapest but it will probably be the last power supply you'll ever need unless you get bit by the pedal bug, and with the optional mounting brackets they are pretty much designed to go together.

I use one on my bass board pictured below, I also daisy chain off the tuner so that i can power 6 pedals even though it has 5 outputs, and the brackets for mounting it underneath opens up pedal real estate.

It may be overkill for you pricewise but if your into pedals at all a good power supply is an investment worth making.

Is that the pedal board contest again? Can I have a link?

[Lowest End]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

How did the show go? (firday? I think...)

The show for the the flier I posted? Hopefully it goes well... in January.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Lowest End

The show for the the flier I posted? Hopefully it goes well... in January.

Yeah, hope it goes well...in January

[bassboysam]

So here are a few more new songs we are working on. some are more complete than others. hope you like'em.

https://soundcloud.com/the_brow/1110-the-deputy-vs-the-butcher


https://soundcloud.com/the_brow/1110-big-sky-black-horse


https://soundcloud.com/the_brow/1110-cicada


https://soundcloud.com/the_brow/1110-immortal-dwarf


we have a few more, but these are the most listenable ones.

[Jason Hall]

lol Metoolica, new term for me had to google it. Love it. Who's the leader in your little band of merrimen? I'd look to them to lay down some direction... if it's you then so far the key for me has been saying what I want without being judgemental. There's always going to be that one song or one riff that bothers you but the other guys love... is it worth leaving or kicking someone out over though? It's a juggling act trying to keep everyone happy all the time and productive.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by jasohall

lol Metoolica, new term for me had to google it. Love it. Who's the leader in your little band of merrimen? I'd look to them to lay down some direction... if it's you then so far the key for me has been saying what I want without being judgemental. There's always going to be that one song or one riff that bothers you but the other guys love... is it worth leaving or kicking someone out over though? It's a juggling act trying to keep everyone happy all the time and productive.

+1. And easier when there are less people. Part of me wants to ask this really good guitar player to join us, the other part of me says, we already work...

[ampegfuzz]

Yeah common goal is key, a lot of The machete tunes went in a different direction then we had originally set forth. But things should be going back in track soon and some of those old tunes will be getting chopped.

[dozicusmaximus]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Gotcha, one thing i have definitely noticed when forming bands is that you have to have a goal in mind and that needs to be out in the open. If your looking to start a slow riff laden sludgey doom band and someone new comes in make sure they understand that and let them make the choice of whether or not they want to be a part of that. Because if you give in and start making concessions for him you'll soon find yourself un happy with the music your creating, and question if its worth it. Just let him know what your guys desired end result is and if he wants to do it let him know you guys are willing to try out different stuff but he needs to not get butthurt if his ideas get vetoed, and that vetoing works both ways if theres something he doesnt like he needs to speak up. Everyone in the band needs to feel like they are an equal part, and that if it has to come down to it then have a band vote and majority wins. If he gets butthurt at that offer then he is not worth playing with it will only cause issues in the future.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to lay that out next practice.

I told him what numero uno and I are into. New guy said he was down for whatever... Then he got his drummer buddy to come over, who hasn't played in a few years. So I figured some sludge would be perfect.
Our doomy/sludge/grunge jams are great. New guy does seem distant when we jam though, like he's lost. He's a good guitar player, I'm not sure what the hell his deal is? Maybe he just isn't into it.
I think he's one of those it has to be technical to be good kind of dudes.

We'll get it hammered out. Part ways if needed. He's a great dude and all.

Originally Posted by jasohall

lol Metoolica, new term for me had to google it. Love it. Who's the leader in your little band of merrimen? I'd look to them to lay down some direction... if it's you then so far the key for me has been saying what I want without being judgemental. There's always going to be that one song or one riff that bothers you but the other guys love... is it worth leaving or kicking someone out over though? It's a juggling act trying to keep everyone happy all the time and productive.

Metoolica is on google? Sweet. He just always seems to play heavily inspired Tool or Metallica riffs. Heavily inspired meaning changing a few notes.
I might have to take the reigns. Indeed, I need to center myself.
It's not just one riff though. It's been a constant thing. We'll either figure out a way to make it work or not. But any time I mention putting a riff he wrote with some riffs we wrote he gets weird, like it he doesn't want it to work or something. He then talks about how he likes being different? He's just confusing the sh*t out of me. Which is it dude?
I guess he has a whole song written and doesn't want it changed, fair enough. I was under the impression we were group writing.
But I see what ya'll are saying.
I'll ask him what his goals are and everyone elses.

[Lowest End]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Yeah, hope it goes well...in January

[LOCOPELAND]

Om just released a few tour dates. Seattle in February! Yes!

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by LOCOPELAND

Om just released a few tour dates. Seattle in February! Yes!

Link? Or could you let me know if they're stopping in Pittsburgh?