Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Part 43: Loud amps save lives!

[father of fires]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Let me start by saying +1. Women are precious creatures that should be respected. Should not be physically or mentally abused. However, this also applies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1KHqi9bXc

Humans are precious creatures. No one deserves abuse.

I'll get off my soap box now.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

I do not agree with anything at all in this post, but you are entitled to your own opinion.....

Ha ha, same. Mike's guitar tone in Yob is some of my favorite guitar tone.

[Niff]

sons of bitches, i messaged the seller of the Artec Sidewinder pickups and they're out of stock for 2 weeks. bad timing!

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

So I listened to the ATMA mix critically while on my lunch break and I can see where he would hear a nasally tone. But I still stand steadfast and think its actually the bass. The nasally tone I hear comes from the center of the mix and the guitars are hard panned left and right, and when Mike goes to octave up chords and Aaron stay's on the octave down root notes it really pops out in the overdrive the bass is using. I didn't hear it anywhere near as much on UNL though. So it very well could be the ATMA mix, or maybe a gear change. Didn't Aaron use an EGC on ATMA and for most of their newer gigs?

I don't know if he had the EGC bass yet. The first time I saw them, Atma was pretty much brand new, and he was using a P-bass. He also used to use a Gibson T-bird a lot.

There's a huge difference between it and Unreal Never Lived, though, partly because the bassist on that was Isamu. Aaron's first album with them was The Great Cessation. Still very different sounding, though.

[Niff]

my EB-0 quest has led me to a wiring diagram, and this seems to be how i will set up my bass.

however, it'll be my first wiring job ever, with a bit of help from my guitarist. pricing pots and caps and things now. would i be stupid for getting one of those paper oil caps, or is it not just blues lawyer voodoo? (ordered regular ceramic caps anyway)

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by father of fires

No offense but everything you just said is why this woman and many other victims are afraid to go to the police. We need to change our attitude in this country big time.

+1.

A couple of my friends have been raped. They did not go to the police, because of the huge ordeal that a rape trial usually is for the victim, where her entire sexual history will be dragged out, ans she will be shamed for such, as if it has any relevance to the matter at hand.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by father of fires

Because people will call her a scene slut.

I'm not defending her actions. I think she went about it completely wrong. I just find calling victims of alleged sexual abuse "sluts" abhorrent.

Agreed, completely.

One of my friends was falsely accused once (it was pretty obviously BS), but he doesn't call the accuser or anyone else a slut. Part of his whole radical political outlook, I guess but a part I agree with. In fact, his housemate's use of gendered epithets really bothers him.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Meth cures everything, right?

Well, it certainly means one would no longer be worried about a cold.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by father of fires

Humans are precious creatures. No one deserves abuse.

I'll get off my soap box now.

+1. But my link wasn't related to all humans. Just the ones Dave Chapelle calls whores. Yes, no one deserves abuse. But the situation does seem peculiar, no? I mean, I don't condone Laz automatically assuming she is a scene slut, but have you ever seen the Simpsons episode where the feminist accuses Homer of grabbing ass? He was going for the gummi, and it got all blown out of proprtion?

Not saying that is what happened here. But, it seems cooky that someone like her, who would organize such an event, is now involved with a semi famous musician demanding he quit his band on social media, rather than filing a police report. Just making sure we have the facts that we know. Obviously we have a legal system and I hope musicians aren't just raping women like that **** head from the Casualties.

[dunwichamps]

Corey's turret boards

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by father of fires

Humans are precious creatures. No one deserves abuse.

I'll get off my soap box now.

Agreed.

I'm not shutting up about it, though.

You guys are probably going to hate me even more for this, but I am very pro-feminist.

Someone who's dressed revealingly is not "asking for it" or at fault for getting raped any more than Brian Stowe was at fault for getting the sh*t beaten out of him for wearing a SF Giants cap.

"She was dressed in blah blah blah way" is no excuse, nor even relevant. I'm a pretty sex-obsessed guy myself, and I went to UC Santa Cruz. There's a tradition that involves lots of people, many of them women, running around naked the first time in the school year it rains there. So, I've been around tons of women who were nude, and I, my horny self, did not rape anyone. It's not that hard to not violate someone. Has a lot more to do with respect for human beings than sexual arousal.

"She was drunk, so she should have been more careful" is also BS. She was drunk? So what? I've been drunk so many damn times, and I've never worried about being raped. Not once. If I didn't have to worry about it, my female friends shouldn't have to, either. Furthermore, also at UCSC, I was at a lot of parties where, lo and behold, there were drunk women. And somehow, I managed to not rape them. Those who blame victims for getting drunk would probably think this was an enormous feat of willpower.

Which is why, as a man, I find the whole victim-blaming thing to be, quite frankly, insulting. It presumes that men in general have just no self-control and so it's women's responsibility to go to extra effort to keep us from raping. And that's bullcrap. I am a man, an adult human being of the male variety. I have control over my own actions. I am not some mindless automaton that can be "driven to rape." Rape is always a choice on the part of the perpetrator. Always.

Women stand a one in six (some estimates even higher) chance of being sexually assaulted during their lifetimes in our society. To me, that's absolutely abhorrent.

Do false accusations happen? Sure. And that's wrong, too. But they don't happen nearly as often as rapes do, not nearly as often as sexual assaults that go unreported to the authorities. Are there some women who are not victims, but act as though they are? Yes, there are. However, there are far more women who actually are victims who remain silent, out of fear of being shamed for what happened to them.

And that's why I will never call anyone who even claims to be a victim, or, for that matter, anyone, a "slut." Or a "whore."

[Nolifer]

Wowee, I was gone for a week because my laptop died and I missed ~2 threads.

My 2 cents on some bygone topics that I caught whilst skimming.

Picks vs finger: I mostly play fingerstyle, with my nails grown out a bit, to get a bit more attack. but I have a 1.5mm pick lying around for when I feel like some string-bashing and silly trempicking stuff. I've lately also developed the habit of palm-muting while playing with my thumb (I have a portion of my fingernail grown out on my thumb, too). Honestly, I think the awesome palm-muted sound is the only thing I envy about pickstyle.

YOB: I've read some of Mike Scheidt's interviews and he seems like a hella awesome person but as for the band, I just mostly dig songs like Ether and Clear Seeing but most of their catalogue makes me feel like I'm almost literally Adrift in the Ocean and leaves me with an odd case of amnesia. In any case, still waiting for it to click on a larger scale.

Anyways, I've been having this idea lately that I just had to get out: a supergroup of instrumentalists whose main bands all tune in to F but different octaves. Basically it would be Ron bringing the doom, Marten Hagström from Meshuggah adding whatever the hell it is that Meshuggah does and David DiSanto from Vektor bringing in some progressive blackened thrash. Not sure about the drums, though, for some reason I've had Danny Walker from Intronaut on my mind.

I have a weird thing for mashing different subgenres together.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Sartori

Agreed.

I'm not shutting up about it, though.

You guys are probably going to hate me even more for this, but I am very pro-feminist.

Someone who's dressed revealingly is not "asking for it" or at fault for getting raped any more than Brian Stowe was at fault for getting the sh*t beaten out of him for wearing a SF Giants cap.

"She was dressed in blah blah blah way" is no excuse, nor even relevant. I'm a pretty sex-obsessed guy myself, and I went to UC Santa Cruz. There's a tradition that involves lots of people, many of them women, running around naked the first time in the school year it rains there. So, I've been around tons of women who were nude, and I, my horny self, did not rape anyone. It's not that hard to not violate someone. Has a lot more to do with respect for human beings than sexual arousal.

"She was drunk, so she should have been more careful" is also BS. She was drunk? So what? I've been drunk so many damn times, and I've never worried about being raped. Not once. If I didn't have to worry about it, my female friends shouldn't have to, either. Furthermore, also at UCSC, I was at a lot of parties where, lo and behold, there were drunk women. And somehow, I managed to not rape them. Those who blame victims for getting drunk would probably think this was an enormous feat of willpower.

Which is why, as a man, I find the whole victim-blaming thing to be, quite frankly, insulting. It presumes that men in general have just no self-control and so it's women's responsibility to go to extra effort to keep us from raping. And that's bullcrap. I am a man, an adult human being of the male variety. I have control over my own actions. I am not some mindless automaton that can be "driven to rape." Rape is always a choice on the part of the perpetrator. Always.

Women stand a one in six (some estimates even higher) chance of being sexually assaulted during their lifetimes in our society. To me, that's absolutely abhorrent.

Do false accusations happen? Sure. And that's wrong, too. But they don't happen nearly as often as rapes do, not nearly as often as sexual assaults that go unreported to the authorities. Are there some women who are not victims, but act as though they are? Yes, there are. However, there are far more women who actually are victims who remain silent, out of fear of being shamed for what happened to them.

And that's why I will never call anyone who even claims to be a victim, or, for that matter, anyone, a "slut." Or a "whore."

Definitely tougher when you know people who have gone through it. That's why they need good friends like us to stand by them.

On a sillier note, I still consider prostitutes whores. However, a prostitute lets you know what they are about. No hate. Respect. Maybe different opinions too? Like that fearful/fearless stuff people keep talking about I need a 200 lb cab and a 10 bass to capture how heavy I am.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by father of fires

Back to that JHS pedal. Did any of y'all listen to the link I posted?

Any other pedals sound like that to you?

Ever play an Analogman King of Tone or an OG Bluesbreaker?

My fulltone bass driver does. That's pretty much exactly the sound I use it for too. There's one in the classifieds. Posted link on page...18?

[DethByDoom]

Wow. What a journey the thread has taken today.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Corey's turret boards

YES

[DethByDoom]

That fraud thread was entertaining. Sucks that guy got ripped off. And shame on you guys for bullying that guy. With his own words, facts, and logic.

Beautiful as always dun.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

Definitely tougher when you know people who have gone through it. That's why they need good friends like us to stand by them.

On a sillier note, I still consider prostitutes whores. However, a prostitute lets you know what they are about. No hate. Respect. Maybe different opinions too? Like that fearful/fearless stuff people keep talking about I need a 200 lb cab and a 10 bass to capture how heavy I am.

Totally. But that's also why I don't use the word "whore" except when literally talking about prostitutes, and even then, only if I'm referring to it in a joking olde-timey sort of way. To me, prostitution seems like a really tough job, and those in that trade work harder and put up with more crap than I will ever have to. They have my respect.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

That fraud thread was entertaining. Sucks that guy got ripped off. And shame on you guys for bullying that guy. With his own words, facts, and logic.

Beautiful as always dun.

That thread was really amusing, yeah. I wish I'd seen it while it was still open.


"Bass Grease" indeed. I still don't really understand the logic of the justifications he was coming up with. If someone's payment checks out as legit, you send them the bass, or whatever item you're selling. It's not that complicated.

[Sartori]

Also, those turret boards look clean as Mr. Clean's shiny bald head.