Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Part Nine - Welcome to Doomsville

[Josh Pelican]

Holy ****. I just got my SVT-VR back from my tech and I've got some great news. As it stands, this amp only cost me $25. My mom wants me to sell it because I have my SVT-CL... but can't I have both?!

I have two amazing tube amps capable of giving me endless amounts of doom! Total cost for both is only $1,025! I think that's pretty ****ing good if you ask me!

[eyeballkid]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

In completely unrelated news, CISPA passed in the House. Time to move to Canada.

But Obama says he'll veto it cos its too "weak"??!!! Geez....

[Lazarus.Bird]

Originally Posted by eyeballkid

But Obama says he'll veto it cos its too "weak"??!!! Geez....

Where did you read that? In this article it appears they released a statement, mainly targeting the privacy concerns of individuals: CISPA cybersecurity bill gets veto threat from Obama - ABC News

[eyeballkid]

That was the commentary on NPR today

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by Josh Pelican

Holy ****. I just got my SVT-VR back from my tech and I've got some great news. As it stands, this amp only cost me $25. My mom wants me to sell it because I have my SVT-CL... but can't I have both?!

I have two amazing tube amps capable of giving me endless amounts of doom! Total cost for both is only $1,025! I think that's pretty ****ing good if you ask me!

Sell one to me for $500?

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

In completely unrelated news, CISPA passed in the House. Time to move to Canada.

I'm giving serious thoughts to moving to Europe. I think I wouldn't care as much about the "big brother" aspect, because I wouldn't have so much hatred and disdain for the country I live in and the overtly oppressive / self serving / corporate owned government that runs it. And if I don't dig one, I could hop a train and go to a different one.

Currently in the research phase now, and wouldn't make any moves until my IT job dries up here. I hear they have a much better / more appreciative music scene too.

I love the argument of "thats what makes America so special, you have the freedom to openly hate it!" The Kool-aid is getting stale.

[JoeVictim]

What we play:

I have owned J bass configs, MM config, and both P and P+J setups. Between active vs passive, I find that passive basses play nicer with my other gear. I had a hard time finding my tone with a very nice, active German Warwick (j bass config). I also had a Squier P bass that was setup like butter but the neck felt very thick and flat. I also have played on a P+J SX bass that left me feeling like the J pickup didn't add anything but an extra knob to an otherwise beautiful sounding P bass. Neck was uncomfortable. The OLP bass I have (licensed MM copy), is awesome playing. The neck width is wider than my Jazz bass but is still veery comfortable. The stock pickup sucked so I put in a basslines. Made a world of difference. My Jazz has been my #1 for a long time and only just recently lost it's spot to the 1lb lighter MM bass. The Carvin I have on order is a Passive SB4k (J bass config). It was ordered to be extra light for my back and should be here on 06/04.

I have noticed that most bass players for this genre of music are playing passive instruments. I don't know what it is about the active electronics that just don't work for me, but apparently I'm not alone. Also, I like solid state power and tubes in the pre. I don't really use the tubes to fuzz the sound at all, I run my pregain at noon. It just happens to be what works for me. Most dudes will swear by all tube amps. While they are definitely cool, a broke guy like me could not afford all new tubes for an SVT. Plus , my back wouldn't handle it. In times like this, I remind myself of what my favorite bass player of this genre uses for his famous tone, Solid State Sunn amps. While I don't have a Sunn, I think I cop the tone fairly well. Also 15's. 15" speakers is where it's at for me. I have played through 10's and 12's but 15's are what works for me.

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by dustinfennessey

ok im probably an idiot...but what is stoner hands of doom?

its an annual doom festival.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Let me google that for you

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

What we play:

I have owned J bass configs, MM config, and both P and P+J setups. Between active vs passive, I find that passive basses play nicer with my other gear. I had a hard time finding my tone with a very nice, active German Warwick (j bass config). I also had a Squier P bass that was setup like butter but the neck felt very thick and flat. I also have played on a P+J SX bass that left me feeling like the J pickup didn't add anything but an extra knob to an otherwise beautiful sounding P bass. Neck was uncomfortable. The OLP bass I have (licensed MM copy), is awesome playing. The neck width is wider than my Jazz bass but is still veery comfortable. The stock pickup sucked so I put in a basslines. Made a world of difference. My Jazz has been my #1 for a long time and only just recently lost it's spot to the 1lb lighter MM bass. The Carvin I have on order is a Passive SB4k (J bass config). It was ordered to be extra light for my back and should be here on 06/04.

I have noticed that most bass players for this genre of music are playing passive instruments. I don't know what it is about the active electronics that just don't work for me, but apparently I'm not alone. Also, I like solid state power and tubes in the pre. I don't really use the tubes to fuzz the sound at all, I run my pregain at noon. It just happens to be what works for me. Most dudes will swear by all tube amps. While they are definitely cool, a broke guy like me could not afford all new tubes for an SVT. Plus , my back wouldn't handle it. In times like this, I remind myself of what my favorite bass player of this genre uses for his famous tone, Solid State Sunn amps. While I don't have a Sunn, I think I cop the tone fairly well. Also 15's. 15" speakers is where it's at for me. I have played through 10's and 12's but 15's are what works for me.

Even outside of doom-world, I still prefer passive (plays better with ALL effects, simple onboard controls), still prefer 15"'s (they just sound good!) and I personally haven't had a need to upgrade my SVT3Pro hybrid amp. Same as you, I use the pre tubes for compression and EQ more than distortion.... thats what all these redundant fuzz and OD pedals are for.

*** thats not to say I wouldn't pay $500 for one of Josh Pelican's "extras"

[Josh Pelican]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Sell one to me for $500?

I don't think so, Tim! Considering I technically only paid $25 for the SVT-VR, I could easily make $1,500 profit. I don't intend on selling either, though. Look how good they look together:

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Toastfuzz

Even outside of doom-world, I still prefer passive (plays better with ALL effects, simple onboard controls), still prefer 15"'s (they just sound good!) and I personally haven't had a need to upgrade my SVT3Pro hybrid amp. Same as you, I use the pre tubes for compression and EQ more than distortion.... thats what all these redundant fuzz and OD pedals are for.

*** thats not to say I wouldn't pay $500 for one of Josh Pelican's "extras"

If I thought that I could maintain a tube amp, I would have one for bass. I did have an all tube combo for guitar, but the cost of upkeep was significantly lower. (two EL34's, four 12AX7's, I think )

[Jason!]

Dibs on the VR if it goes

[Jason!]

Speaking of SVT's, my SVP CL came in yesterday but it's out at my mom's. So, get gas in my car to go out there or eat?

edit: It's settled, I'll kill 3 birds with one stone. Pick up the CL, eat at mom's then head to the dispensary. Problem solved.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Jason!

Speaking of SVT's, my SVP CL came in yesterday but it's out at my mom's. So, get gas in my car to go out there or eat?

If I went to my Mom's house, she'd probably cook for me. You should look into that.

[Lazarus.Bird]

A Home Improvement reference? This thread is now complete.

[Jason!]

I'll do a little grocery shopping there. She's off to the casino.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

A Home Improvement reference? This thread is now complete.

Coincidental at best.

[Corey Y]

I mix it up with my basses. One Jazz type (Carvin), one Precision (MIM Fender), one with passive HBs (Drake Custom). I've used all of them at different times for Doom/Stoner music. They all interact differently with my amps and pedals and have their own strengths.

I'm also not big on active basses. My Carvin is active/passive, but I almost always run it passive. Nothing against them, just never found it to be a necessity for me.

[mc_muench]

Off to good old Music-Go-Round, we'll see what happens. Elvis has left the building...