Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Pt. 44 Magnum.. the big boys.

[change-jug]

Originally Posted by swspiers

Laz,

Crim needs serious listening. Fripp is insanely influential in all sorts of genres.



Anyway get past 21st Century and go to Epitaph and In the Court of the Crimson King. And f' that Beatles comparison. Lennon/McCartney couldn't come up with those two songs with all the acid on the planet! Poseurs!....

+1

In the Court of the Crimson King is a awesome song. Found these dudes in my dad`s record collection when I was in 8th grade.

Steven King was even influenced and put a character named the Crimson King in his Dark Tower series.

Also,I made up my mind and snagged a Epi Rivoli hollowbody from the classifieds.

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by Niff

i just had a chat with him and he didn't have much of a hand in the distribution deal - just the production deal, so unfortunately i don't think he'll be of much help!

that poses an interesting question though - who in the thread has had a distribution deal? i know they can be incredibly varied on paper. i've only come into contact with digital distribution deals, never the fine print on physical copies.

i imagine they would change wildly from the norm in this genre too.

cool, thanks for checking.

we have been offered a couple of deals but they just did not make any financial sense. they expected us to do 100% of the promotion so we did not see the point.

[Niff]

Originally Posted by change-jug

+1

In the Court of the Crimson King is a awesome song. Found these dudes in my dad`s record collection when I was in 8th grade.

Steven King was even influenced and put a character named the Crimson King in his Dark Tower series.

Also,I made up my mind and snagged a Epi Rivoli hollowbody from the classifieds.

awesome about the rivoli! my next bass is the casady or a rivoli, and it'll be hot rodded/modded to be a fuzzy doom machine.

picked up the epi EB-0 for those following my bass stable quest. takes a while to set up properly, but when you do they're amazing little players (and insanely cheap). just waiting on an artec pickup to pop up again..

[change-jug]

thanks Niff! I still want to get a Casady bass but seeing as how the Rivoli is no longer made I figured I might as well get while I could.

Good luck with your EB-O!

[swspiers]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

Possibly controversial opinion but "the power to believe" is my favorite Crimson record. Prog at it's finest. Saw them on the corresponding tour back in 2003/4 mind blowing.

Vastly over-looked and under-rated album. Friends of mine were just p-o'd that Levin and Bruford left, and had this thing against Trey Gunn and the Warr Guitar.

+1 to that album!

[swspiers]

Serious rumble for you guys into Home Theater or hi-fi systems.

$10,000 subwoofer!

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s.../revel-rhythm2

[bassboysam]

The exact opposite of this thread...
3pc needs songs to make hot chicks in short, tight dresses dance and sing....

[demon666]

Haha gotta love the song suggestions.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Thanks for all the King Crimson suggestions, guys! I have all the music on my PC somewhere. I'll have to dive in a bit more.

Originally Posted by Mattosaur

Since we're kind of on the topic, how many of you guys do the business/booking end of the band? I don't think it will be me 100%, but I suspect I'll be doing a significant chunk of it. That's never really been my role before, though, so I'm picking up lots of this as I go.

I was just curious how many of you guys were active in the biz end of things.

I do probably 95% of it. Run the facebook page, book the shows, talk to the blogs, organize recording, etc etc. This was my first time doing it too, but I felt like I could do it the best so I took responsibility. It's really just networking and using your people skills. I enjoy it a lot, but it is also a lot more work than I anticipated.

Originally Posted by bassboysam

cool, thanks for checking.

we have been offered a couple of deals but they just did not make any financial sense. they expected us to do 100% of the promotion so we did not see the point.

Well that's unfortunate. The whole point of an independent band (or any band really) using a distributor is they will handle the leg work...

I've talked to a few friends who worked out deals with labels just for vinyl pressing. The label fronts all the costs, makes all the profit, then returns what's left to you at cost. I'm hoping that once our full length is out for a few months I can find a deal like that, but I'm not holding my breath. Would be nice not to have to front the $2500 - $3000 it's probably going to cost to print 300 gatefold colored vinyls.

[Ron Now]

To play devils advocate here Laz, if you do front the $2500/3000 for a record. You also get to keep the whole $8000 (or whatever it is) you get from selling them. Which allows you to press more records, shirts, do more recordings, and pay for touring expenses.

That being said, this route doesn't work for everyone. But if you can make it work, it is a legitimate option to consider.

Obviously when we started out we did everything on our own out of necessity since no one wanted to help/give us money. But as time went on, it just became the best option for us and how we operate as a band.

[Lazarus.Bird]

That's a good point Ron, but we're also not the type of band that will ever be good at making money haha. So doing things for less money definitely has it's perks.

[Corey Y]

Got most of a new song worked out tonight, jamming out with just the guitarist on some riffs. Practice on Friday and hopefully we will get it all fleshed out. We agreed once we got 3 songs down tight we would do a quick and dirty demo of everything, so hopefully I will have some new material to share soon.

[Ron Now]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

That's a good point Ron, but we're also not the type of band that will ever be good at making money haha. So doing things for less money definitely has it's perks.

Laz, I get what you're saying but, we're a band called Bongripper. We have over the top awful/offensive album/song titles, play instrumental doom songs that range from 10-80 minutes, and rarely tour.

Weirder things have happened....just sayin.

But seriously whatever works for you dude is always best. That being said next time we're out east our you dudes are in the Midwest, we'll do a show.

[Road Bull]

Ron, I seriously dig your album titles and what you guys are about. There is something very honest about an album called, " Satan Worshipping Doom." I was hanging down in Portland this weekend and there were some dudes on the street that were pushing their hip hop CDs and trying to get me to listen. I politely turn them down, yet they persisted. Then it came to me, a beautiful exit strategy.
I asked if it was Satan worshipping doom. They said no, then I said, " Well I'm not interested in it then, sorry." There was nothing else to be said. I think that will be my standard answer for a while for when I don't want to deal with something. Is it satan worshiping doom? Then I am not interested. lol.

Besides, there are types of music, yours included, that is done full well knowing that you are not trying to be commercially popular. You just do what you do, and if others get it and dig it, great! And if they don't, oh well, its not for them.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Road Bull

Ron, I seriously dig your album titles and what you guys are about. There is something very honest about an album called, " Satan Worshipping Doom." I was hanging down in Portland this weekend and there were some dudes on the street that were pushing their hip hop CDs and trying to get me to listen. I politely turn them down, yet they persisted. Then it came to me, a beautiful exit strategy.
I asked if it was Satan worshipping doom. They said no, then I said, " Well I'm not interested in it then, sorry." There was nothing else to be said. I think that will be my standard answer for a while for when I don't want to deal with something. Is it satan worshiping doom? Then I am not interested. lol.

Besides, there are types of music, yours included, that is done full well knowing that you are not trying to be commercially popular. You just do what you do, and if others get it and dig it, great! And if they don't, oh well, its not for them.

I raise my pint glass in agreement.

[Ron Now]

Road Bull, that last paragraph/statement pretty much exemplifies what we do as a band.

Thanks for the support, and also very glad that we can help you avoid having to buy street hip hop CDs.

[Sartori]

A couple new things I made in garageband that my band will be working on when we get the chance. The first one is slow, the second one is fast.

https://soundcloud.com/bassistsartori/untitled-14-minute-doom-song


https://soundcloud.com/bassistsartori/faster-doom-song

[mc_muench]

Thats some damn fine music right there



really like this bass...
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/msg/3564413150.html

[Sartori]

Thanks.

[swspiers]

Mr Dunwich, you have done the impossible.

After reading your EQ posts, my ignorant antipathy toward Ampeg in general and the SVT in particular has ended.

I believe, sir, you have written a new 'Sticky' for the Amps forum, and helped make it a safer place to go to.

You da man!