Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Pt. 44 Magnum.. the big boys.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by Jason Hall

I kid of course, but seriously... if there was a Dunwich approved Peavey out there or something, I think my mouse button would break as I hit add to cart.

Lol. Yeah I kinda wish my VB2 didn't have the resonance and presence. And that the effect loop wasn't on the front. And that the overdrive channel had gain AND master. And the overdrive sounded better. And maybe had more preamp toobz. Other than that I'm pretty satisfied with it. Especially for 400 bucks.

I really like the controls of the ad200b. I love simple bass amps.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

I really like the controls of the ad200b. I love simple bass amps.

You and me both brother!

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

True. Get what you want and use what works for you.

I agree with that. But, it is hard to ignore that fact that when someone like you stays away from something, it's probably a valid reason.

With that in mind, I DO play behringer gear so, I have no shame in my cheap junk. BDDI21, VP1, and BSY600. I have more Behringer gear than any other brand. (*carvin is tied at 3 all, bass and two cabs.)

Nothing wrong with rocking budget gear. A lot of times thats all people can afford. But they also come with a budget price so its not a big deal.

Like I am not going to buy a $1800 Model T. Just way overpriced.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

Lol. Yeah I kinda wish my VB2 didn't have the resonance and presence. And that the effect loop wasn't on the front. And that the overdrive channel had gain AND master. And the overdrive sounded better. And maybe had more preamp toobz. Other than that I'm pretty satisfied with it. Especially for 400 bucks.

I really like the controls of the ad200b. I love simple bass amps.

Pres and Res are becoming standard on most guitar amps nowadays. Effects loop on the front is kinda odd to me but its seems to happen from time to time.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by mbelue

True, but Peavey doesn't make a whole lot of interesting stuff. Maybe the VB-3, maybe; but all their SS bass stuff is blandy bland.

The VB-2 is a very awesome guitar head (probably my favorite "production" head ATM), has everything a pedal using player needs or could want, an extremely flexible preamp with multiple input types (clean or dirty) and selectable mids, a post EQ FX loop, presence AND resonance, tank like build quality, plus more watts then necessary, made in America quality, and a bad ass price tag. What does a 3 times the price Orange RV have? 2 channels, neither of which like pedals in front, a completely unusable FX loop, reverb that's either over the top or not there at all, still no biasing ability, less then 1/2 the watts of the peavey, and questionable made in china build quality.


Notice i said guitar amp though and not bass amp.....


For what it's worth I like the newer orange stuff for what its designed to be (plug n play with maybe a tuner out front), and I loved my AD200B (except that it didn't have an FX loop, or a way to bias it to correct specs for 6550's). But I have to agree that they are waaayyyy overpriced new out the door. If I had bought the AD200B new it would have been 600-1000$ more expensive then my completely custom made Dunwich, which is ridiculous since the orange has 1/3 the controls, 75% of the power, 1/20th the good looks, and only say 50% of the bad @$$ tone of the Naki.

/rant cuz I'm reminded of the day I trolled Orange's facebook page hard.....

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Pres and Res are becoming standard on most guitar amps nowadays. Effects loop on the front is kinda odd to me but its seems to happen from time to time.

Yeah it just doesn't seem necessary to me. I've thought of trying to get my vb2 modded to have them removed/bypassed.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

Yeah it just doesn't seem necessary to me. I've thought of trying to get my vb2 modded to have them removed/bypassed.

that would probably be more hassle than its worth to be honest.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

Lol. Yeah I kinda wish my VB2 didn't have the resonance and presence. And that the effect loop wasn't on the front. And that the overdrive channel had gain AND master. And the overdrive sounded better. And maybe had more preamp toobz. Other than that I'm pretty satisfied with it. Especially for 400 bucks.

I really like the controls of the ad200b. I love simple bass amps.

hahahaha we are polar opposites, everything you hate about the VB-2 is why i love it, and what you like about the AD200B is what i didn't.... 1 thing though, my OD channel's gain and master work together fine.

[dunwichamps]

to be fair I do price myself pretty cheap so something like the Naki would normally go for 2.2k+ in the custom market but I am custom dude who isnt looking to make a living on what I do so its a different context.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Like I am not going to buy a $1800 Model T. Just way overpriced.

I know who your talking about.... and he overprices EVERYTHING...

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

Yeah it just doesn't seem necessary to me. I've thought of trying to get my vb2 modded to have them removed/bypassed.

The FX loop is bypassed with nothing plugged into it, the pres and res controls are basically bypassed if you crank them to ten. There's no need to remove / bypass them as it would accomplish the same thing, just cost you money.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

If I had bought the AD200B new it would have been 600-1000$ more expensive then my completely custom made Dunwich, which is ridiculous since the orange has 1/3 the controls, 75% of the power, 1/20th the good looks, and only say 50% of the bad @$$ tone of the Naki.

Now I'm wondering if I should give up my search for a used ad200b and just go dunwhich.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

to be fair I do price myself pretty cheap so something like the Naki would normally go for 2.2k+ in the custom market but I am custom dude who isnt looking to make a living on what I do so its a different context.

I'm aware, but still 2.2k is cheaper then a brand new AD200B.

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

Now I'm wondering if I should give up my search for a used ad200b and just go dunwhich.

If I had known you were looking for one I would have sold you mine, I traded it in to a local music store 2 weeks ago. If you have the time to sit on the wait list though, go Dunwich and get your end all be all amp.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

I know who your talking about.... and he overprices EVERYTHING...



The FX loop is bypassed with nothing plugged into it, the pres and res controls are basically bypassed if you crank them to ten. There's no need to remove / bypass them as it would accomplish the same thing, just cost you money.

Yea I dont get that. I can build a T clone for that money.

[dunwichamps]

I do have a long waitlist. Total buzzkill for some. Skips was ~1 year from initial idea to delivery.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

hahahaha we are polar opposites, everything you hate about the VB-2 is why i love it, and what you like about the AD200B is what i didn't.... 1 thing though, my OD channel's gain and master work together fine.

It does take pedals really well. I'd prefer there to be a master control for each pre amp channel. I use my clean channel at 4.5 and if I used the drive its usually around 8. So, big volume difference and its a little harsh sounding. I usually end up backing down the treble so... Yeah it doesn't quite make it easy to get the sounds I want with just a step of the foot switch. But. Like nick says...

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Yea I dont get that. I can build a T clone for that money.

He got ripped and is trying to recoup some funds, he bought 2 of them in a package deal and is selling the one in worse condition for 75% of what he paid for both.

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

I do have a long waitlist. Total buzzkill for some. Skips was ~1 year from initial idea to delivery.

But it was damn well worth the wait.

[dunwichamps]

I wouldnt pay 1800 for a Model T even if Sunn0)))))) had made used it to make the anti-christ.

Any competent builder can do a T clone. Its nothing more than a Superbass with 4 6550s in UL.

I would even make it better IMO by including a Mid Shift and Resonance control ala Stonehenge.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

It does take pedals really well. I'd prefer there to be a master control for each pre amp channel. I use my clean channel at 4.5 and if I used the drive its usually around 8. So, big volume difference and its a little harsh sounding. I usually end up backing down the treble so... Yeah it doesn't quite make it easy to get the sounds I want with just a step of the foot switch. But. Like nick says...

Ohhhhh I gotcha, I was thinking you meant that the MV kicked off in your OD channel. Yeah the volume outputs from the 2 channels are very different but I never toggle between them. I use it for guitar and when i want a nice fendery clean i use the clean chan, and when i want a slight breakup Marshall JMP / JCM kinda sound i use the OD channel. I always leave the master dimed and use the channel gain's as my overall volume controls.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

The FX loop is bypassed with nothing plugged into it, the pres and res controls are basically bypassed if you crank them to ten. There's no need to remove / bypass them as it would accomplish the same thing, just cost you money.

I know fx is bypassed it just an aesthetic dislike. That true about the res/pres? Sweet! Didn't realize.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

I know fx is bypassed it just an aesthetic dislike. That true about the res/pres? Sweet! Didn't realize.

Actually Res at 0 is more like no Resonance control and Presence at 10 would be like no Presence control. But that will probably seem quite bright.