Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Pt. 44 Magnum.. the big boys.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

I wouldnt pay 1800 for a Model T even if Sunn0)))))) had made used it to make the anti-christ.

Any competent builder can do a T clone. Its nothing more than a Superbass with 4 6550s in UL.

I would even make it better IMO by including a Mid Shift and Resonance control ala Stonehenge.

The last one on eBay was signed by Greg Anderson (and Wino and Dylan Carlson....) and sold for 1200$, plus it was in immaculate condition with new tubes..... 1800$ is definitely rip off territory. It's gonna sit for a few months and he'll finally give in and sell it closer to a normal price, kind of like whats going on with those cabs of his.

Mid-shift and reso controls would definitely round out a versatile Model T clone.

[dunwichamps]

If someone was really balls out they would drop UL and go up to 200W RMS using a Hiwatt power supply scheme. that would be ****in killer.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

I do have a long waitlist. Total buzzkill for some. Skips was ~1 year from initial idea to delivery.

A year is reasonable for the finished product. You just charge parts price up front?

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

I know fx is bypassed it just an aesthetic dislike. That true about the res/pres? Sweet! Didn't realize.

I kinda like it on the front, its easier for trouble shooting at a gig or during practice.

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Actually Res at 0 is more like no Resonance control and Presence at 10 would be like no Presence control. But that will probably seem quite bright.

Really? cause with Reso on 0 it has no low end at all what so ever, with both on ten it seems like the most natural and flat sounding. Hmmmm very interesting.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

A year is reasonable for the finished product. You just charge parts price up front?

No I get in touch when I am ready. Everything begins then

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Really? cause with Reso on 0 it has no low end at all what so ever, with both on ten it seems like the most natural and flat sounding. Hmmmm very interesting.

Yea electrically that is correct but musically not so great. I can show schematically assuming its just like a soldano Res control.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Actually Res at 0 is more like no Resonance control and Presence at 10 would be like no Presence control. But that will probably seem quite bright.

That kinda sounds right to me I usually keep the res at 3.5 and pres at 8. Sounds most flat to me. I do like a kinda bright sound anyways.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

No I get in touch when I am ready. Everything begins then

And then every few days you get barraged by huge high-res pics of build progress and your gear boner grows larger and larger......

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Yea electrically that is correct but musically not so great. I can show schematically assuming its just like a soldano Res control.

Interesting I figured it would be opposite, i guess in my mind its hard to think that something with full resistance (res pot at 0) is the same as it not being there at all, I would think that with the pot at 10 (lil to no resistance) would be the same as it not being there. BUT I am just a novice who barely understands how electricity works and your the PhD student so.... yeah..... don't take my word for it

[dunwichamps]

So achieve Resonance, what the circuit looks like is say a 4.7nF cap in parallel with the 1M pot. This combination is in series with the negative feedback line. When the pot resistance is set to maximum, there is a high pass filter formed which only allows certain mid and high end frequencies to get injected back into the phase inverter. This means that low end is not being included in the negative feedback loop and the low end then gets boosted. In negative feedback the filter does the opposite of what its name is. The presence control does the opposite, it filters out high end from the negative feedback line so high end gain increases inside the loop.

If the Res pot is at 0, then the pot resistance is 0 and then 4.7nF cap is shorted and all frequencies are injected back to the phase inverter, thus nothing is being filtered here.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

So achieve Resonance, what the circuit looks like is say a 4.7nF cap in parallel with the 1M pot. This combination is in series with the negative feedback line. When the pot resistance is set to maximum, there is a high pass filter formed which only allows certain mid and high end frequencies to get injected back into the phase inverter. This means that low end is not being included in the negative feedback loop and the low end then gets boosted. In negative feedback the filter does the opposite of what its name is. The presence control does the opposite, it filters out high end from the negative feedback line so high end gain increases inside the loop.

If the Res pot is at 0, then the pot resistance is 0 and then 4.7nF cap is shorted and all frequencies are injected back to the phase inverter, thus nothing is being filtered here.

Ahhhhhh I gotcha. I'm kinda surprised I was actually able to mostly follow that, what are you doing to me Nick? Making me unwillfully understand odd and foreign languages?!?!?

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Ahhhhhh I gotcha. I'm kinda surprised I was actually able to mostly follow that, what are you doing to me Nick? Making me unwillfully understand odd and foreign languages?!?!?

lol your res control on the Annunaki is the same however you presence is not the same. Its a difference design.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

lol your res control on the Annunaki is the same however you presence is not the same. Its a difference design.

Interesting, I run them both on ten anways so its all good haha Luckily the cabs I run with the naki are fairly well balanced so I can run them both at ten and its not over loading the cabs with bass nor is it shrill and harsh. I used to run it with the res on 10 and the pres at about 6 but I found the top end was smoother turning the pres up to ten and dialing back the treble. If I was running it through just 12's though I would probably dial back the res as it has soooooo much low end, paired with 15's though it sounds amazing.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

Interesting, I run them both on ten anways so its all good haha Luckily the cabs I run with the naki are fairly well balanced so I can run them both at ten and its not over loading the cabs with bass nor is it shrill and harsh. I used to run it with the res on 10 and the pres at about 6 but I found the top end was smoother turning the pres up to ten and dialing back the treble. If I was running it through just 12's though I would probably dial back the res as it has soooooo much low end, paired with 15's though it sounds amazing.

Yea that Pres is pretty much neutral at 10, its more like a late high end cut then a high end boost. I have been digging that more in amps and used it also in Metro for Shannon

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by Ancient Tone

And then every few days you get barraged by huge high-res pics of build progress and your gear boner grows larger and larger......



Interesting I figured it would be opposite, i guess in my mind its hard to think that something with full resistance (res pot at 0) is the same as it not being there at all, I would think that with the pot at 10 (lil to no resistance) would be the same as it not being there. BUT I am just a novice who barely understands how electricity works and your the PhD student so.... yeah..... don't take my word for it

Yeah... pm sent.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Any day now I should be receiving W Dunwich shirts, a Mothership vinyl and a Sandrider vinyl in the mail. Come on USPS!

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Any day now I should be receiving W Dunwich shirts, a Mothership vinyl and a Sandrider vinyl in the mail. Come on USPS!

i will get you tracking when that ships.

[Jason Hall]

Given my crudge knowledge of electronics, I think Dunwich is a wizard and he would have been burned at the stake. Carry on.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Jason Hall

Given my crudge knowledge of electronics, I think Dunwich is a wizard and he would have been burned at the stake. Carry on.

go ahead and try.

[Ancient Tone]

Anyone looking for a EA Supercollider V2? I've got one on the chopping block so I can get some new 15's, 106$ PP'd + Ship'D CONUS.

[DethByDoom]

Originally Posted by Jason Hall

Given my crudge knowledge of electronics, I think Dunwich is a wizard and he would have been burned at the stake. Carry on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMjakNhZTc