Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Pt. 45: Rule 34: Handwired Gear Pronz

[dunwichamps]

Also consider the reaction of the human mind to loud sounds and adrenaline. One of the reasons movies often crank the low end sound. Of course it depends how much are you turning down. Lots of factors here.

[blendermassacre]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Also consider the reaction of the human mind to loud sounds and adrenaline. One of the reasons movies often crank the low end sound. Of course it depends how much are you turning down. Lots of factors here.

DON'T USE SCIENCE ON ME NICK.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

maybe/maybe not. Fletcher Munson Curve for one.

Yes this is very true. Fortunately some EQ tweaks should compensate for that change in perception, and as volume goes down, more resources are available (by this I mean your speakers are not on the edge of capability. You are not going to push them past that by boosting some bass at a low volume).

[dozicusmaximus]

Originally Posted by swspiers

Actually, as I get older, the more likely it is that I'm going to be in situations like that. Wineries can actually pay pretty good $$$ for small gigs like that. And for a gig like that, my 1500 watt amp with a 1212/6 is waaaaay overkill.

Other than that, I'm with you though. I prefer to play loud and proud.

Sell Out!!!

Just joshin ya
If I can hear them talking that would bug the hell out of me.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by CL400Peavey

Yes this is very true. Fortunately some EQ tweaks should compensate for that change in perception, and as volume goes down, more resources are available (by this I mean your speakers are not on the edge of capability. You are not going to push them past that by boosting some bass at a low volume).

+1 on all that.

[mc_muench]

Originally Posted by CL400Peavey

Over kill yes, but that is why there is a volume knob. No one can deny that your mega rig still sounds good when turned down.

I dont agree, when we turned down last night, I feel like I wasnt pushing my speakers hard enough, like they werent going into speaker distortion as opposed to just my pedal distortion/fuzz/OD.

[swspiers]

Originally Posted by CL400Peavey

Yes this is very true. Fortunately some EQ tweaks should compensate for that change in perception, and as volume goes down, more resources are available (by this I mean your speakers are not on the edge of capability. You are not going to push them past that by boosting some bass at a low volume).

Regardless, I'm of the mind that as a pro, it's my responsibility to bring the right gear to the right situation That means having a 2x10 or (gasp) a tasteful combo on hand for small, intimate gigs and my fEARful when I need or can at least use the big guns.

I like getting hired. Forcing my perspective on the band leader is not going to get me to achieve that goal. that's all I'm saying with my pov. The endless debates about this amuse me no end.

[dunwichamps]

I cannot say for sure but from my own experience there is also a memory like effect with volume. If you play at a certain loudness then turn down it almost always seems worse to me quieter but if I start playing at that volume initially its fine. Its kind of a perception thing.

[swspiers]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

Sell Out!!!

Just joshin ya
If I can hear them talking that would bug the hell out of me.

Dude, I ain't going to deny it. I have Kelly Clarkson songs in my repertoir. More likely to get paid for those than I will from having Elder or Solace in my bag of tricks (which I do, BTW)

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by mc_muench

I dont agree, when we turned down last night, I feel like I wasnt pushing my speakers hard enough, like they werent going into speaker distortion as opposed to just my pedal distortion/fuzz/OD.

And that may very well be the case. To which the solution is using less speakers, and pushing the remaining ones just as hard. Decrease the sensitivity of the system, use less power, but still push the remaining speakers as hard.

This is part of why, even though 812 guitar full stacks may look cool, they become impractical if you are trying to drive all the speakers to distortion. You need a lot more power, and will thus have a lot more volume. Im all for playing loud, but there is a point where balancing the power/speaker sensitivity/total volume output becomes more effort than it is worth.

For me I am not looking to get that break up from my speakers. So I can scale back my volume and not sacrifice a ton of tone. That isnt going to work for everyone though, and thats ok.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by swspiers

Regardless, I'm of the mind that as a pro, it's my responsibility to bring the right gear to the right situation That means having a 2x10 or (gasp) a tasteful combo on hand for small, intimate gigs and my fEARful when I need or can at least use the big guns.

I like getting hired. Forcing my perspective on the band leader is not going to get me to achieve that goal. that's all I'm saying with my pov. The endless debates about this amuse me no end.

Hence the 12/6/1's. I can bring one for the small stuff and still preserve my sound with out adjusting to a new rig.

Also +1 on getting paid for songs that this crowd may not initially love. I will play the sh!t out of anything if I am getting paid.

[dozicusmaximus]

Originally Posted by swspiers

Dude, I ain't going to deny it. I have Kelly Clarkson songs in my repertoir. More likely to get paid for those than I will from having Elder or Solace in my bag of tricks (which I do, BTW)

It's good to be versatile, especially if you want to make some money haha.
Speaking of which I really need to learn blues and some jazz.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by blendermassacre

DON'T USE SCIENCE ON ME NICK.

HAHAHA.

I just saw a Pope meme on FB that says, "That's right, it's magic. I don't have to explain ****."



Made my day!

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus

Sell Out!!!

Just joshin ya
If I can hear them talking that would bug the hell out of me.

I know, right? The ambient noise at Olive Garden is enough to where I can't ease drop on the people next to me's convo. I can't imagine Hearing them while a live rock band playing...

[Jason Hall]

How about we give the audience hearing aids and all rock 4" combos?

[swspiers]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

I know, right? The ambient noise at Olive Garden is enough to where I can't ease drop on the people next to me's convo. I can't imagine Hearing them while a live rock band playing...

I miss read this at first, and imagined Sun))))) playing a small dinner gig at Olive Garden. Welcome to hell!!!!

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by swspiers

I miss read this at first, and imagined Sun))))) playing a small dinner gig at Olive Garden. Welcome to hell!!!!

hahahaha. I can just see the stale bread sticks disentegrating

[mc_muench]

Bring the rig that fits the gig...i wouldnt bring my 415+218 to a coffee shop folk gig.

[Lazarus.Bird]

Originally Posted by Jason Hall

How about we give the audience hearing aids and all rock 4" combos?

Some people in that thread would have you believe that's a great idea. I don't know why I bothered posting in there in the first place.

[bassresistance]

Originally Posted by Jason Hall

How about we give the audience hearing aids and all rock 4" combos?

Why move all your gear in the first place? Just record your set at practice the week before, and hand all the audience members a memory-stick with an MP3.