Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Pt. 45: Rule 34: Handwired Gear Pronz

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by mc_muench

Liked whoever posted their band...

Made our Madison show w/ Merican set tonight, it is one heavy 30ish minutes. Cant wait for Friday!

It's going to be fun!

[Toastfuzz]

Thumped Bongripper's Live at Roadburn on my walk to work through the snow, couldn't shake the thought that I was marching into Mordor the whole time....

[Toastfuzz]

Originally Posted by JoeVictim

I was looking at the octave fuzz, but now I don't know. Maybe more delay... Help! You know I am all about the budget pedals... I just can't figure out what I would use.

I'm having alot of fun using the new little MXR envelope filter to twist my tone for certain parts, I use it as a boost/warble to stick out a bit more than my base tone. It keeps all the low end you want though which is nice, it only pops in the highs.

I think I'm gonna follow this schematic and build a small passive feedback looper to stick at the end of my chain, use it for noisy interludes/feedback between songs (which we overdo a bit I guess) and when my guitarist is retuning. What do you think is the smallest enclosure this could fit in?

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

Having a decent clean blend is like a license to go buy every cheap and/or weird dirt box and try it out on bass.

I was eyeballing the old DOD FX55B Super Distortion in my box-o-gear-junk last night. It's easily the thinnest sounding distortion I ever owned, but now I'm considering giving it a shot.

[Mattosaur]

Saw Graveyard last night at The Shelter in Detroit. They really tore it up, and were obviously having a great time doing it. The audience was very much the 30-something guy with a beard and some tattoos, so I felt like I was among our people. Not a single Metallica shirt to be seen.

The encore just crushed. They played "The Siren," and the singer just blew me away. One of the best shows I've seen in awhile.

Bass player had a Gibson Ripper (or Grabber? I can never remember which is which) through an Orange AD200 into an Orange 410 cab (which sat on top of a road case). For some reason the road case for extra height trick never occurred to me. I really want to get my speakers closer to my ears, and having the extra height just looks better to me.

[Ron Now]

I decided that I need to get a timeline.

I'm working on downsizing my overall gear setup, I've got a perfect setup for bongripper, litterally everything I need, nothing I don't plus enough variations that I can make new sounds without needing more pedals.

Which leads me to my second/other bands/home board. I've got my dirt/od/fuzz in order, and since delay is my favorite effect I was looking at other delays, but everything I looked at I just wish it was the moog. So I decided to go for a delay which is the oposite of the Moog, while still retaining characteristics of delay that I like (plus a whole bunch of options for ambient use).

I resisted for quite awhile, but there it goes, my first GAS for a digital delay in about 5 years.

But for real, Moog 104M, Timeline, RE-101 Space Echo is a pretty good selection of delay to own haha.

Once I'm done downsizing I'm looking to have about 10 pedals total. Considering I topped out somewhere in the 50's a few years ago, that's quite the decrease....hell in early bongripper days I had 10-15 pedals on my board at a time, now it's 2 effects, a tuner, and an expression pedal.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

I decided that I need to get a timeline.

I'm working on downsizing my overall gear setup, I've got a perfect setup for bongripper, litterally everything I need, nothing I don't plus enough variations that I can make new sounds without needing more pedals.

Which leads me to my second/other bands/home board. I've got my dirt/od/fuzz in order, and since delay is my favorite effect I was looking at other delays, but everything I looked at I just wish it was the moog. So I decided to go for a delay which is the oposite of the Moog, while still retaining characteristics of delay that I like (plus a whole bunch of options for ambient use).

I resisted for quite awhile, but there it goes, my first GAS for a digital delay in about 5 years.

But for real, Moog 104M, Timeline, RE-101 Space Echo is a pretty good selection of delay to own haha.

Once I'm done downsizing I'm looking to have about 10 pedals total. Considering I topped out somewhere in the 50's a few years ago, that's quite the decrease....hell in early bongripper days I had 10-15 pedals on my board at a time, now it's 2 effects, a tuner, and an expression pedal.

dude following my lead. Skip is going to be pissed. haha you will have all 3 delay types, digital, analog, and tube.

Now all I gotta get is like an EchoRec and win

[Ron Now]

I'd like to think we followed eachother's lead or took inspiration from each other.

Also I have a tape delay, not a tube delay...or a tube tape delay. Or is there a tube in the space echo that I'm not aware of?

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

I'd like to think we followed eachother's lead or took inspiration from each other.

Also I have a tape delay, not a tube delay...or a tube tape delay. Or is there a tube in the space echo that I'm not aware of?

In all reality im just coping you or skip. Nothing new I came up with.

hmm i thought the Space Echo was tube. My bad yo. The EchoRec is magnetic drums and tube and the Echoplex is tape and tube.

Oh well my bad.

Timeline is good if you wanna experiment with many things that analog cant do. They have some nice stuff in there

[Ron Now]

Yeah that's my thoughts. Get a really nice digital delay capable of tones I like as well as a bunch of stuff I can't do with the Moog, like the weird octave and filter delays. Also the freeze sounding stuff, plus it can serve as a looper.

I'm a sucker for anything that sound like Eno.

Great now I'll need a tube delay to round out the whole collection.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

Yeah that's my thoughts. Get a really nice digital delay capable of tones I like as well as a bunch of stuff I can't do with the Moog, like the weird octave and filter delays. Also the freeze sounding stuff, plus it can serve as a looper.

I'm a sucker for anything that sound like Eno.

Great now I'll need a tube delay to round out the whole collection.

You can probably find an echoplex before an echorec. Fulltone made a echoplex clone a few years back but it was easily 1k then and probably the same on the used market,

Echorec is more like the Catbread pedal you bought with the different rythymic modes, not a very long delay of course but very cool.

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

I decided that I need to get a timeline.

I'm working on downsizing my overall gear setup, I've got a perfect setup for bongripper, litterally everything I need, nothing I don't plus enough variations that I can make new sounds without needing more pedals.

Which leads me to my second/other bands/home board. I've got my dirt/od/fuzz in order, and since delay is my favorite effect I was looking at other delays, but everything I looked at I just wish it was the moog. So I decided to go for a delay which is the oposite of the Moog, while still retaining characteristics of delay that I like (plus a whole bunch of options for ambient use).

I resisted for quite awhile, but there it goes, my first GAS for a digital delay in about 5 years.

But for real, Moog 104M, Timeline, RE-101 Space Echo is a pretty good selection of delay to own haha.

Once I'm done downsizing I'm looking to have about 10 pedals total. Considering I topped out somewhere in the 50's a few years ago, that's quite the decrease....hell in early bongripper days I had 10-15 pedals on my board at a time, now it's 2 effects, a tuner, and an expression pedal.

You will soon have the ultimate triumvirate of delay, there will now be no delay sound you can't achieve, I'm kinda jelly.

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

dude following my lead. Skip is going to be pissed. haha you will have all 3 delay types, digital, analog, and tube.

Now all I gotta get is like an EchoRec and win

Nah I'm not pissed, jealous sure, but not pissed. Besides i'm not friends with Ron on FB to start a meme war with him.

Originally Posted by Ron Now

I'd like to think we followed eachother's lead or took inspiration from each other.

Also I have a tape delay, not a tube delay...or a tube tape delay. Or is there a tube in the space echo that I'm not aware of?

Now that's a mentality I can get behind.

I'm still trying to find a MF-104M locally so I can see if I can mimic it with the timeline, it has a pretty versatile dBucket setting which I should be able to tweak close enough to satisfy me. I'm trying to keep my pedal count to a minimum and do the most with the least, and I can't go out and spend 1k$ on two more delays that will get used sparingly in comparison to the timeline. I'd rather save the funds for an RD bass.

[dunwichamps]

haha the meme war was good.

I would dig owning a tube delay but no place for it on the board. The maintenance level skyrockets with that kind of stuff. A collectors item for sure. Something I cannot clone at this moment either.

[Ron Now]

A local shop near my parents had a decently priced Echoplex a little while back (in the $500 range) I wanted it, but I didn't need it at the time. Not sure if it was one of the tube or SS models though. I'm gonna say it was an ep-3 or ep-4 just to make myself feeel better about not buying it.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

A local shop near my parents had a decently priced Echoplex a little while back (in the $500 range) I wanted it, but I didn't need it at the time. Not sure if it was one of the tube or SS models though. I'm gonna say it was an ep-3 or ep-4 just to make myself feeel better about not buying it.

haha yea no reason to drop on the SS model IMO. Just go all out and get the tube one for maximum win.

damn man i wish I could jam with some good TB doom room fellows. all this talk requires some jamming.

[Ron Now]

The catalinbread echorec is the reason I looked into the timeline to begin with. I got it in trade because it seemed like something fun to mess with (but I figured I wouldn't dig it) and it changed my mind on how good a digital delay could sound. I'm still seriously impressed with that pedal. It really does do the tape delay sound incredibly acurate but without the maintence.

I'm only selling mine because I don't need it for my triumvirate of delay doom.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

The catalinbread echorec is the reason I looked into the timeline to begin with. I got it in trade because it seemed like something fun to mess with (but I figured I wouldn't dig it) and it changed my mind on how good a digital delay could sound. I'm still seriously impressed with that pedal. It really does do the tape delay sound incredible acurately but without the maintence.

I'm only selling mine because I don't need it for my triumvirate of delay doom.

you can get similar sounds in the parallel/series delay mode for more rhythmic ****.

deTape mode is the El Cap mode and you can get tape sounds there esp with high tape bias for the distorted, fading repeats with all the mechanical noise added in via the Crinkle and Tape Modulation settings

[Ron Now]

The thing that won me over on the Catalinbread was the repeats. I always find digital delays to get weird with the repeats, they never fade out the way an analog or tape delay does.

But they do on the Echorec, plus when you put it into self oscilation it has the same kind of mechanical skipping sound that the Space Echo gets, it's a lot different than the sound of an analog or digital delay self oscilating, very cool stuff.

I'm keeping my eyes out for a good deal on a timeline now, hopefully the rest of my stuff I'm selling goes soon so I can grab one and learn how to use it haha.

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by Ron Now

The thing that won me over on the Catalinbread was the repeats. I always find digital delays to get weird with the repeats, they never fade out the way an analog or tape delay does.

But they do on the Echorec, plus when you put it into self oscilation it has the same kind of mechanical skipping sound that the Space Echo gets, it's a lot different than the sound of an analog or digital delay self oscilating, very cool stuff.

I'm keeping my eyes out for a good deal on a timeline now, hopefully the rest of my stuff I'm selling goes soon so I can grab one and learn how to use it haha.

TGP will have some, they always do. Thats where I found the Moog

[Ron Now]

Noted, I rarely go on there, but I'll keep an eye out.

Also not to overlook your jamming comment, any time you're in the midwest, hit me up I'd drone some riffs with you anytime.