Stoner/DOOM Bassits Pt. 40: oh, I used to listen to them, when I was in 8th grade

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by Sartori

The singer doesn't have to be the sole lyricist, or even the main lyricist. I write some of my doom band's lyrics, but the guitarist writes some, even though I do almost all the vocals.

Plus if you have unused stuff, you could dig up some of that and use it.

I totally agree. I have very little ego when it comes to singing lyrics someone else wrote, unless they're really specifically personal (I'm not going to sing about cheating on a woman or how I hate my mom, since neither of those are true for me), same with playing music someone else wrote if it's good. That being said, I've offered pretty much every band I've been a singer in to share lyrical duties, let someone else sing some songs, collaborate...no dice. I'm sure there are some people who fall in the middle ground out there in the world, but all the people I've worked with are seemingly either too lazy to do anything but show up and play (most of the time) or they want to do everything and won't collaborate on anything.

I wish I could find someone who loves writing crazy, abstract, cosmic sounding lyrics. I'd be happy to just take a block of poetic rambling and edit down into vocals. That's how I got the first singing gig I ever did, when I was 18. The drummer just had pages and pages of lyrics, but they weren't in any kind of format for songs. I took them, came up with vocal lines and worked them into songs. With his permission to do some re-writing, but keep some key lines and maintain the theme/vision of what was being communicated. I would love to do that again, it appeal to my engineer/producer mindset to approaching music.

[ampegfuzz]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

I wore my flannel shirt for the first time in 2012 for my work xmas party last week, and had practice the same day. No joke, I'm pretty sure it made me play better.

LMAO!

[Corey Y]

I may just go digging through old papers and see if I can find someone unused lyrics. That or maybe just start writing ideas down free verse and just work them into lyrics later. I almost always write lyrics to music, so just writing free of any other influence and then crafting it to existing music might ignite some new creativity for it in me.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by father of fires

Y'alls gonna think this is crazy but I swear it's true.

My guitarists sound better straight into the amp. We keep trying to use a fuzz and it just compresses the hell out of their tone (not in a good way). There ain't nothing I can do to make it work.

I don't think that sounds crazy at all.

[Niff]

Originally Posted by demon666

I ran my AD200 with all 12AX7's with 6550's. I onlt ran the master around 3 and the gain around 5 (not clock positions)

interesting. i really need to go do a shootout with my full gear setup at a store - everything else i have is perfect, it's just the head i am missing now!

[Lazarus.Bird]

Originally Posted by DethByDoom

Have problems with the Bluebeard and SVT Cl? I been wanting ad200b for a while its troubling to hear it doesn't take pedals well. Or did I miss read?

SVT-CL and BB were a match made in heaven. Used that for over a year, and they worked great together (even with my active ATK700). Kind of wish I never sold my SVT-CL to fund the Magma, and that I would have bought a CL again instead of a VR. That seems to be the opposite of the general consensus around here, but then again I've always done things a bit differently!

Originally Posted by Sartori

The singer doesn't have to be the sole lyricist, or even the main lyricist. I write some of my doom band's lyrics, but the guitarist writes some, even though I do almost all the vocals.

Plus if you have unused stuff, you could dig up some of that and use it.

Let's not forget, Ozzy hardly wrote any of the Black Sabbath lyrics! Our singer writes the actual lyrics, but we will collaborate on lyrical themes and run ideas past each other. He does most of it, but I think having a second brain/opinion helps a lot.

[mc_muench]

I wear flannel 6 out of 7 days in the week. Flannel rocks, so do wool socks.

[Sartori]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

I totally agree. I have very little ego when it comes to singing lyrics someone else wrote, unless they're really specifically personal (I'm not going to sing about cheating on a woman or how I hate my mom, since neither of those are true for me), same with playing music someone else wrote if it's good. That being said, I've offered pretty much every band I've been a singer in to share lyrical duties, let someone else sing some songs, collaborate...no dice. I'm sure there are some people who fall in the middle ground out there in the world, but all the people I've worked with are seemingly either too lazy to do anything but show up and play (most of the time) or they want to do everything and won't collaborate on anything.

I wish I could find someone who loves writing crazy, abstract, cosmic sounding lyrics. I'd be happy to just take a block of poetic rambling and edit down into vocals. That's how I got the first singing gig I ever did, when I was 18. The drummer just had pages and pages of lyrics, but they weren't in any kind of format for songs. I took them, came up with vocal lines and worked them into songs. With his permission to do some re-writing, but keep some key lines and maintain the theme/vision of what was being communicated. I would love to do that again, it appeal to my engineer/producer mindset to approaching music.

Both my metal bands have shared lyric-writing duties. I'm the lead vocalist in my doom band and sorta co-vocalist in my black metal band. I guess I've just lucked out with guitarists at least, if not drummers.

[Ron Now]

Bongripper doesn't have vocals because we didn't want to find a singer, and none of us really have anything worth saying.

I did back and forth vocals for consent. 5 songs later I never wanted to have to write lyrics again...and those songs were only like a minute long each.

Also Bongripper doesn't really use fuzz. I have that twosome I posted earlier but my main tone is my Rat same with our guitarist Nick. He has a hyper fuzz on his board mostly for making trashy blown out sounds. The other guitarist either uses a Rat or a Devi ever dark boost depending on what amp he's using.

[demon666]

Hey Ron, here is that EAR demo.

https://soundcloud.com/demon666-3/ce...r-ad4096-drone

[Lowest End]

Man, I missed like 2/3 of a thread in a week? Damn.

[Corey Y]

Maybe I should just do an instrumental band? I get worried it will be boring. Not because instrumental bands are inherently boring, Monobrow kicks a$$, Bongripper is awesome, I loved Karma To Burn and plenty of other similar type bands. I'm just not sure I'm a good enough songwriter to pull it off. That might just be low musical self esteem talking, dunno.

[demon666]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

Maybe I should just do an instrumental band? I get worried it will be boring. Not because instrumental bands are inherently boring, Monobrow kicks a$$, Bongripper is awesome, I loved Karma To Burn and plenty of other similar type bands. I'm just not sure I'm a good enough songwriter to pull it off. That might just be low musical self esteem talking, dunno.

I wish no one sang in my band. There are times when some guest vox are cool but overall I would rather have it just be instrumental.

[Niff]

Originally Posted by Corey Y

Maybe I should just do an instrumental band? I get worried it will be boring. Not because instrumental bands are inherently boring, Monobrow kicks a$$, Bongripper is awesome, I loved Karma To Burn and plenty of other similar type bands. I'm just not sure I'm a good enough songwriter to pull it off. That might just be low musical self esteem talking, dunno.

probably the low musical self esteem! my band (totally instrumental) walk a very fine line between boring and engrossing sometimes.. it is really just a huge collection of riffs, improvised solos and bass+drum fills with names attached.

i ****ing love playing it, though.

http://stonethecrows.bandcamp.com/

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by demon666

I wish no one sang in my band. There are times when some guest vox are cool but overall I would rather have it just be instrumental.

I'm probably losing some points with whoever keeps the musician cred score, but I don't really care about lyrics that much. I like vocals, as a collection of rhythms and tones, but I don't actually listen to the words all that much. That's coming from a lyricist/vocalist. I said pretty everything I NEEDED to say, all the stuff I just want to say is better suited to rambling conversation. There are some bands that I know EVERY word to the songs I like or bands where I like the vocals and lyrics and the music is incidental. Those are the exceptions, rather than the rule though. I love the vocals from TAD, Earthride, Weedeater, Melvins, Unsane...but I couldn't tell you what the hell any of them are talking about and as long as it's nothing racist or totally f*cked up, I don't really care. Melvins I don't think ANYONE knows what they're talking about anyway.

[Corey Y]

Originally Posted by Niff

probably the low musical self esteem! my band (totally instrumental) walk a very fine line between boring and engrossing sometimes.. it is really just a huge collection of riffs, improvised solos and bass+drum fills with names attached.

i ****ing love playing it, though.

http://stonethecrows.bandcamp.com/

The part of my brain that doesn't care what anyone else thinks and just wants to play music, even if no one ever hears it, knows that. I guess a simple enough rule would be "if I'm bored playing it, then it's boring", otherwise who cares. Like Nick (Dunwich) has said before though, I hate playing music for other people because even with stuff I love I end up going "oh, uh, well, it gets really good after this part...I guess this is a little repetitive right here, it changes in a bit" and all of that...but when I'm by myself I'm just into it. That's probably just social anxiety and awkwardness in general though. I've never been the person that plays music for attention or coolness. Obviously, since I've never been in a popular band, even locally. I just love making noise.

Sounds cool, by the way. I'm not bored

[bassboysam]

I never tbought we could do the instrumental thing but eventually you start approaching songs differently and the riffs kind of change in flavour. i find it liberating with no vox.

[Corey Y]

F*ck it, I don't want to write lyrics, ha.

[Niff]

Originally Posted by bassboysam

I never tbought we could do the instrumental thing but eventually you start approaching songs differently and the riffs kind of change in flavour. i find it liberating with no vox.

vocals often mean songwriter or frontman as well, and i am so sick of that 'band leader' ****. equally shared songwriting duties for the win!

[OldCrow]

This is pretty bad ass:

http://serialhawk.bandcamp.com/