Stoner/DOOM Bassits Pt. 40: oh, I used to listen to them, when I was in 8th grade

[negative theory]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

Fane clones I like for a more british sound that has a lot more low end

That might actually be a great idea. Weber makes some that are fantastic.

[jerrymcdougal]

I second the Fane idea. EVM12L's may be a good too. Those are pretty clean and beastly.

[OldCrow]

Mmm Fanes. And how can someone not like Greenbacks?!?

[The_Janitor]

Originally Posted by jerrymcdougal

I second the Fane idea. EVM12L's may be a good too. Those are pretty clean and beastly.

+1 on this.

I had a fender 2x12 with EVM12L's in it and it sounded god-like w/ the Sunn Sentura II.

At the same time I had a Crate 4x12 w/ celestion greenbacks, which sounded decent on its own, but muddy and mushy next to the fender cab.

Not the best direct comparison, but the difference was night and day.

[dunwichamps]

I have 2 axis 12s from weber in my emperor. They rip

[jerrymcdougal]

Here's some updated pics from my SF300 rehouse project. It looks a bit like a picasso in that everything is in an unusual place and unsymmetrical, but that will make it unique. The strange placement is by necessity, I had to trim the board down significantly (lets hope it still works) to get it to fit, and had to work with the space I had. (I should have gone with smaller pots) This way I'll have lots of real estate for graphics at least. I plan on getting it wired up tonight hopefully.

If it ends up being effed up from the rehouse (SMD is unforgiving), I plan on just building an FZ-2 clone on vero board and using the same box. That said, I still haven't found an FZ-2 vero (or non-vero I suppose) layout anywhere on the web. Anyone know of one?

[negative theory]

Originally Posted by OldCrow

Mmm Fanes. And how can someone not like Greenbacks?!?

I don't like Greenbacks either. :what:

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by Lazarus.Bird

Any opinions on Avatar guitar cabs? My guitarist owns Marc Ford's (The Black Crowes) custom built Roccaforte. It only came with a 16 ohm tap, and he has this thing about leaving it original, so he wants to get a 16 ohm cab made. Then he'll have the option of running his V4 with the Matamp, or the Roccaforte with the Avatar.

He said he basically is looking for a pretty transparent cab with clarity, volume and depth. Basically wants the cab to make the Rocca sound like the Rocca, without any coloring from the cab. He's thinking of doing Celestion CL 80s. That puts the cab at 320w and gives plenty of head room. He's not incredibly opinionated on speakers, but knows he's not a fan of V30s.

So, opinions on Avatar cabs, and speaker advice, while keeping in mind he wants to retain the clarity of his amp.

I've heard great things about the avatar contemporary cab's, solid construction and great value as well as good color options for customizing. As far as speakers what amp is he going to be using with it? If he's looking for decent headroom, accurate reproduction of the amps tone / transparency, and he doesn't like v30's then i highly recommend either the WGS ET65's or the Weber 65's. They are celestion g12-65h clones with upgrades. I have the WGS in my 4x12 and the Weber's in my 6x12 and they are amazing, my favorite 12's by far. Good low end, smooth mids, and sweet high's. 4 of them in a 4x12 handles 260 watts, and they handle my 225w VB-2 with no problems at all. If you don't believe me just ask Geoff he raves about his as well (I believe they are what are in his Verellen cab.)

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by jerrymcdougal

I second the Fane idea. EVM12L's may be a good too. Those are pretty clean and beastly.

Fane's are amazing, but not cheap at all your looking at over 1k$ just for 4 12's. The EVM12L's and clones are amazing high wattage speakers, I have 2 Eminence Delta pro-12a's (EVM12L clones) in my ported 2x12 and they are amazing, 400w power handling each, HUGE low end, but they are lacking a little in the high end department, plus they take guitar and bass equally as awesome.

[dunwichamps]

I wouldn't be oem fanes just the weber fanes

[Ancient Tone]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

I wouldn't be oem fanes just the weber fanes

Ahhhh gotcha that would be more cost effective. Gotta love them Webers.

[dunwichamps]

yea 100 or so dollars a pop. Still not cheap, looking at maybe 500 after shipping (if they charge that)

WGS still more cost effective.

[JoeVictim]

Loving some Bongripper on Spotify right now!

Like Earthless, but heavier! Really heavy, in fact.

[Jason Hall]

Oooo have this waiting for me at home .

[mc_muench]

^Im green with envy




My guitar player got his mom to send him his old Big Muff to him for christmas...up until now hes just been using the Peaveys onboard distortion and a Keeley modded blues driver. HOLY HELL. When we get into a big riff, we sound like a Mammoth stepping on you. It also surprising, well obviously mid scooped, but with those missing mids, I fill those in, so you can hear me easier.

Its a 70's muff, all rusty and dirty, big 'ol box, just awesome.

[negative theory]

Originally Posted by dunwichamps

yea 100 or so dollars a pop. Still not cheap, looking at maybe 500 after shipping (if they charge that)

WGS still more cost effective.

I love Weber speakers, but WGS are also fantastic for the money. I need another 4x12...

[dunwichamps]

Originally Posted by negative theory

I love Weber speakers, but WGS are also fantastic for the money. I need another 4x12...

If you went WGS, the 65 clones are really nice. My old avatar had g12h30s in them along with V30s. I think the g12h30s are a really nice sounding speaker but not a ton of wattage handling.

Weber wise Im all about fane clones. I mix mine with 2 Weber 65s

[Ron Now]

All this talk of guitar speakers and 12's in general is really making me want to pick up some speakers for this 73' hiwatt bass cab I picked up a few months ago.

It's the same dimensions as their guitar cab, but I figure with some high wattage speakers and coupled with a sweet tube amp it could be a pretty gnarly rig.

[mc_muench]

Definition of lead sled, I may just have to get this,it would solve my power amp problem.

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ele/3492845722.html

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by jasohall

Oooo have this waiting for me at home .

I love that color.