--STU COOK-CCR--

[jmcdan3]

Discuss his style, technique, gear, and playing. Creedence Clearwater Revival.

[VanzKantDanz]

Well I thought Cook was very funky in CCR's debut album's single, the Susie-Q cover. He skept the bottom well for the tenure of CCR's career, I thought he had his highlights though. As for gear I'd guess a p bass and a RIC were no doubt part of his bass arsenal.

[CincyBassMan]

Umm, didn't John Fogerty play all the bass lines on the records?

[VanzKantDanz]

On the Creedence records I'm almost positive Cook played all the bass lines but Fogerty did play all the bass in his first solo album.

[CincyBassMan]

I don't think so. John wrote all the CCR songs and played all the parts.

[Sneckumhaw]

Originally Posted by CincyBassMan

I don't think so. John wrote all the CCR songs and played all the parts.

What are you talking about? Name one reasonable source.

[jerry]

I think Fogerty just told Stu what to play, and Stu played it. If you want to hear some of Stu's post CCR work, check out Southern Pacific.
I had a long conversation with John Forgety a few years back....he's not letting go of the past, he almost started foaming at the mouth when I mentioned his old rhythm section......I'm not kidding.

[CincyBassMan]

Originally Posted by Sneckumhaw

What are you talking about? Name one reasonable source.

Well every interview I read, there was no mention of any creative input from any CCR member but John. Can you cite any source that says different?

[bassmodder]

I heard something like that too on the radio. I think he was a control freak in his later days.

[rickfan63]

I think it's reasonable to say that what you hear on the CCR records is all the members of CCR, not John Fogerty alone. Fogerty did arrange the songs the way he wanted them though I'm sure. When I was on the road Stu Cook and CCR's drummer was touring in the midwest with Eliot Easton of the Cars in a band called Creedence Clearwater Revisited, playing all the old CCR tunes.

[The Golden Boy]

Originally Posted by CincyBassMan

Well every interview I read, there was no mention of any creative input from any CCR member but John.

Big jump from "creative input" to "not playing on the record."

I seem to recall something about the songs being given to the band, and no one finding out the lyrics until the recordings were finished.

[Sneckumhaw]

Originally Posted by CincyBassMan

Well every interview I read, there was no mention of any creative input from any CCR member but John. Can you cite any source that says different?

No creative input? Fine (although Tom definitely had some into his cowritten masterpiece Walking on the Water.) But you show me where it says Stu didn't play the bass on the recordings. Not the same thing.

And you're the one with the burden of proof, not me.

[GlennW]

http://www.classicbands.com/ccr.html

John's one of my all time favorites. He can write, play, and sing very well, and he means it...no superstar syndrome. He's right up there with Chuck Berry, Carl Perkins and Jimi Hendrix in my book.

CCR would never have been without him.

As far as Stu, I never really got off on his playing.

[Loel]

Great link Glenn,

John and the band have managed
to record material that has withstood
the greatest test of all time..

It's ironic John had plans for a solo album "Hoodoo"
that didn't materialize,my screen name is from a line
in the song Born on the Bayou,
{i can still hear my ol' hounddog barkin' chasin' down a
hoodoo there}I agree John is the real deal..

HD/

[CincyBassMan]

Originally Posted by The Golden Boy

Big jump from "creative input" to "not playing on the record."

I seem to recall something about the songs being given to the band, and no one finding out the lyrics until the recordings were finished.

Well I guess my memory is failing, I just seem to remember hearing how resentful the other members were of John. He wrote the hits, he produced the albums, he directed what was played, he was they're meal ticket...I never got the impression that CCR was a group effort, i.e. equal participation in writing and creating. So, you're right, big jump. I stand corrected.

Originally Posted by Sneckumhaw

No creative input? Fine (although Tom definitely had some into his cowritten masterpiece Walking on the Water.) But you show me where it says Stu didn't play the bass on the recordings. Not the same thing.

And you're the one with the burden of proof, not me.

You are right, I can not disprove Stu did not play on the recordings. But I still maintain that CCR was not a song/music writing team.

[GlennW]

Originally Posted by HooDoo

my screen name is from a line
in the song Born on the Bayou,
{i can still hear my ol' hounddog barkin' chasin' down a
hoodoo there}I agree John is the real deal..

HD/

Your name instantly reminded me of that song. The second poster has a related name as well.

[BillMason]

I used to play CCR a long time ago, probably about 1986 or so, never knew who their bass player was until a few years ago when I got curious. His stuff never stood out for me in the way other bass player's playing has done but I have to say he's actually been a pretty big influence on me and the way I invent bass lines to chords I have never played before. He uses a lot of standard rhythms, like dotted quarter-eighth-half note, but I use his techniques for moving through changes all the time. This really became apparent to me after not playing any of their stuff for a long time, and then this past year getting into a band that does some fairly simple songs, stuff I never listened to as well as some CCR that I do know, and I'm finding my created bass lines for many of the tunes to be very Stu Cook-esque.

[VanzKantDanz]

As far as I know Cook played the bass on the songs and according to allmusic.com, he played some drums as well. I think Cook's playing on Have you ever seen the Rain? is definatly a highlight as well as Hey Tonight.

[Sneckumhaw]

Originally Posted by VanzKantDanz

according to allmusic.com, he played some drums as well.

I would imagine that's one of allmusic's many mistakes.

[VanzKantDanz]

Probably.