Study a Bass Player, Song-by-Song
I do not know if this has been done in here, but I'd like to get a bit more from my hours and hours spent here in TB (other than a massive cranial growth of bass gear knowledge).
I'd like to study... study a bassist, song by song. Real study... like technique, note choice, tempo, sections of the song, how would YOU play it, how it could be learned or studied, how it pushed or drove the song, it's history, etc...
We could post notation, tabs, point out how to learn it on bass, pics of concerts, gear, interviews, different recordings, whatever. I would really love to study bass players through the songs they played.
This would probably not be for the pro, weekend pro's, or know-it-all's; maybe just us bass noobs and those willing to lend a hand, point out inaccuracies, or look at something in a different way. What better way for budding bassists to learn then to jump right in! :bassist:
I guess we should do a poll for about a week and see which bass player people would like to study first. Since I started this (particular thread) - I think I will choose the players to drop into the poll. :hiding: If any one would like to run with the idea and study a different player from a different genre - awesome - do it! I'd like to join those too.
I'm going to title it: Player study - Bass Player Name - Song Title. So when we start a new thread (study) or have many threads on many Bassist/songs going at once (which I really, really hope happens) we can find them easily.
Player Study - Geezer Butler - War Pigs
Player Study - John Paul Jones - How Many More Times
The Poll will list a player and the first song to study (unless the Player is really wanted, but a diff song is fairly unanimous in choice). I really hope this gets off the ground. :hyper:
You Tube of Poll Choices:
Geezer Butler - War Pigs
John Paul Jones - How Many More Times
Geddy Lee - Red Barchetta
Roger Waters - Embryo
Scott Reeder - Spaceship Landing
Peder Bergstrand - Texas Pt 1&2
Learn "How Many More..." in both position(7th fret E octave A string and 2nd fret E octave-D string). I pick this one because it has several essential grooves that are used commonly in classic rock. Plus it teaches you to hold back on the beat, then take charge(as the E riff gets heavier with the vocals etc.).
You could just learn the main riff to get by with a band, but you should learn as much of the real bassline as possible. This bass part also teaches jam instinct.
You should also maybe pick out an ACDC song to learn, one that just has pumping 8th notes(Thunderstruck, Dirty Deeds etc). That way you keep in touch with both playing styles.
Any place to find these versions? I could go for a solid JPJ study, but I need to know how to go about it; where to find the material.
Here's a thread on someone doing this very thing on James Jamerson.
original album version - 1969
Danmark Radio version - 1969? From the DVD released in 2003 or so.
Royal Albert Hall - 1970 from the same DVD
BBC sessions - 1969, CD released 1997(?) Disc 1
Fillmore West Bootleg - 1969, nicked from YouTube
As you can see, these are not all available in audio versions "off the shelf". The ones from DVD and YouTube I converted by feeding an audio out into a recording interface and then edited the different tracks via ProTools.
These are cool because they demonstrate how the band was evolving and feeling there way through things. Before Whole Lotta Love, this was the song where they did the medley incorporating a bunch of older blues and early R&R tunes. Fun to play along with to keep you on your toes.
My band does an instrumental version of Traveling Riverside Blues, which started as a goof at rehearsals and evolved into something we do at clubs now. It's turned into a jam incorporating the riff from Levee Breaks, and then into How Many More Times for a few bars to end it. One night a regular at the bar who has his own band came up and started singing HMMT. We rolled with it, with he and I guiding the band through it. Went great until we got to "The Hunter" part, they had a hard time with the transition there, we rolled back into the main riff quickly. ;-)
This is a great idea! ..and you've listed some of my favorite bassists :hyper: (Although, I did have to look up the last two.)
I have to vote Geezer first, & JPJ as a close second :bassist::bassist:
I think there's an isolated bass version(guitar hero) of "How Many More Times" on youtube. I say learn it the regular way first, then check with youtube for accuracy.
Not enough of us noobs want to carry this?
Maybe being the holidays - this would be a better topic for the deep of the winter months, say Jan 2?
Red Barchetta is such an epic song and is almost symphonic in scope: thus, it gives you lots to delve into. Melody, harmony, groove, background, solos, tone, timing, etc. I've been studying this song for years and it still presents a challenge. It's like Bach or something.
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