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Old 05-14-2008, 07:26 PM
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Is there anyone like Jaco?

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Hello all,

I am new to playing bass and have been buying some "bass player" CD's lately, Marcus, Victor, etc...

These artist all sound like wanking off to me where as one of the first few things I bought was the Remastered Jaco Pastorious CD and also The Essential Jaco Pastorius 2 CD set. Jaco's stuff is real music, it never sounds like some guy trying to show how great a player he is, even when it's busy it never sounds forced, know what I mean?

Is there any other bassists out there who are in this mold?

My faves are Sting and Paul Spencer Denman, the dude who plays for Sade, because they play for the song.....

Maybe not a good comparison as far as the music goes, but I don't want to waste anymore money!
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:29 PM
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maybe you don't like slap. I don't think especially marcus is a wanker.
there are plenty, check previous similar threads for hundreds of names.
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I kind of like Steve Bailey's "So Low... solo", and Tony Levin "Waters of eden".

Nice bass fartin, and good creative music not the least.

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Try Pandora (www.pandora.com), type in Jaco and see what you get.
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Look up Steve Swallow. He's in his own category and is always playing for the song.
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Maybe wanker is the wrong word choice. I don't want to offend anyone's choice of music, we all like something different.
I like slap OK.

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maybe you don't like slap. I don't think especially marcus is a wanker.
there are plenty, check previous similar threads for hundreds of names.
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:59 PM
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Check Pino Palladino as well (www.pinopalladino.com) he has made quite a few legendary sessions on lots of well known tunes. (Check Elton John - Nikita, Phil Collins - I wish it would rain for a start).

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agreed.. i cannot stomach victor wooten's stuff.. i find his albums to be MOST horrid....

I really appreciate bass players who enhance the music so well, and I am disappointed bu virtuoso's who dont.
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Yes victor's slap style is gimmicky and usually produces nothing but wanking, but you obviously don't listen to much of his stuff if you haven't heard him play finger style. The man is where he is today for a reason, he. can. groove.

Marcus's style isn't the most accessible but i dont find him to be a wanker at all.

I find that Darryl Jones has a tone and style remiscent of Jaco.
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Yes victor's slap style is gimmicky and usually produces nothing but wanking, but you obviously don't listen to much of his stuff if you haven't heard him play finger style. The man is where he is today for a reason, he. can. groove.
+1. Yinnin' and Yangin'.....holy hell, that's some amazing stuff!!!!
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You might enjoy some of the music and players mentioned above, but in answer to your original question, No.
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Victor Bailey.
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why don't you check out james jamerson?
with out him, there'd be no jaco
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I think you might want to look into some of Jaco's students. Michael Manring is pretty good in my opinion.

But look into Birelli LaGrene. He is primarily a guitar player but the man is a musical genious. During their collaborative work in the 80s, he got bass lessons from Jaco if I remember correctly. Close your eyes on the following clip, it is Jaco.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UY_wH15a7C0
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youre missing the point of my statement, i know vics chops are amazing, but his songs IMHO are complete garbage that i loathe sitting through.
many of the tracks focus so much on his skills and so little on good music.

i respect the mans playing, but i hold him FAR FAR FAAAR below jaco pastorius and various other people who play the role of bass player better in my opinion.

feel free to flame me, i wont mind
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"Is there anyone like Jaco?"

Geez, and just a few years ago everyone was complaining there were too many players like Jaco!
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Richard Bona is a African bass player who admits to starting out wanting to be like Jaco. Bona has played w/many great jazz players as well as doing his own music - he is an incredible vocalist and bass player who prefers to play music instead of blow you away w/chops. He even says this in a Bass Player Mag interview a while back. He has a great rhythmic sense, a light touch fingerstyle and fretless player, slapping tech is pretty mellow.
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If you like those essential Jaco CDs, be sure to get Joni Mitchell's Hejira album! There's some amazing Jaco work on there!
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I love Jaco's playing he was a truly gifted individual. Listening to him though I realize how far "beyond" he was as a bass player and musician. He could be so all over a tune w/harmonics, rhythm variations, chords, accents etc. - listen to the later Joni Mitchell tunes he played on. He is like a one man orchestra. I can imagine Jaco got frustrated by bass playing - he was a composer, arranger and too talented just to keep his gifts limited to one instrument.
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Get Janek Gwizdala's two albums. Incredible music, incredible soloists and just the best electric bassplayer on earth.
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