Tim Bogert

bass_man86 · #1 05-03-2007, 04:12 AM

Any fans of Tim Bogert out there? I have been a huge fan of Tim for longer than I care to admit to, his daring lines on classics that he recorded with Jeff Beck are amazing, just check out "Lady" and the original version of Stevie Wonder's "Superstition". Yes, Stevie wrote Superstition for Jeff Beck and the original recording is the one off of the "Beck, Bogert, and Appice" LP. Chime in guys, there is a lot to be learned from the "Old School"!

Bruce Lindfield · #2 05-03-2007, 04:30 AM

I saw the classic Trio Beck Bogert and Appice in 1974 and it was one of the best live gigs I've been to - I remember the gig as afterwards a few of my friends were really on a 'high' from the gig and ran across the ornamental flower beds in the centre of town, scattering flowers everywhere.

But unfortunately for them, there was a Police Car parked nearby and they were "apprehended" - I was watching close by and I got to hear some of the ensuing conversation :

Police : Why did you do that?
Friends : Because we didn't see you there!

gomez hacienda · #3 05-03-2007, 04:41 AM

I remember that BB&A album very well. My first thought was "Who is that guy?" Tim was great. We were all into the album. All my friends at that time were either guitar players or drummers

so I was practically alone. They were all ga-ga over Jeff. (They still are ga-ga over Jeff) and I kept saying "listen to what Bogert is playing, listen." and they would say, "yeah that's great, I wonder what Jeff is doing there, etc, etc.

Guitar players, sheesh.

PhR · #4 05-03-2007, 05:31 AM

I was just listening to Cactus' "Restrictions". Tim Bogert's pretty upfront on this and other Cactus albums too. He uses a pick on "Guiltless Glider", probably the only track he ever played with a pick according to the liner notes. Not that you could tell it from the sound, the rumble is there wheter he picked or plucked.

Busker · #5 05-03-2007, 06:10 AM

I've got a video of Tim with Vanilla Fudge, circa 1968, doing You Keep Me Hanging On. I love it. That band was great. Tim really got into his playing, with a lot of body english thrown in. Carmine Appice was a monster drummer, too.

scarekrow · #6 05-03-2007, 06:23 AM

Hey I'm in too! Proud to say I've been many years inspired and influence by all that cat's stuff.
Saw BB&A and Cactus as much as I could back in Ohio in the 70's.
...damn I musta got old!?

Mojo-Man · #7 05-03-2007, 08:17 AM

One of the first concerts I ever saw.

Cactus opened for Jimi Hendrix.

I was only ten years old.
But will never forget the sound of Tim's massive P-bass tone.

PS Hendrix wan't bad either.

Sneckumhaw · #8 05-03-2007, 11:31 AM

Tim IS bass.

dabassr · #9 05-03-2007, 11:42 AM

Definitely one of the greats. I've listened to everything of his that I can get my hands on, Vanilla Fudge, BBA, DBA with Rick Derringer, and of course Cactus. He and Carmine Appice are one of the best rock rhythm sections ever. I am messing around with his intro to "Can't Judge A Book" from his Cactus days - what a great greasy bass line.

PhR · #10 05-03-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dabassr

I've listened to everything of his that I can get my hands on

How about this?
http://www.pattofan.com/Boxer/boxer-abs.htm

DocBop · #11 05-03-2007, 01:13 PM

The first time I got to go to a club I went to the Whiskey and saw Vanilla Fudge with Bogert. What a sound. I later went to GIT when Tim was one of the instructors and he's a real nice guy and great teacher.

Hellbastard · #12 05-03-2007, 06:39 PM

Great PLayer, one of the reasons I started Playing bass was listening to Cactus´ Restrictions album.

DistortedBass · #13 05-04-2007, 01:41 AM

Great guy and an amazing player. I had the good fortune to study with him at musicians institute. The compliments i got from him meant the world to me.

Baryonyx · #14 05-04-2007, 02:46 AM

Billy Sheehan is a bit of a fan, IIRC....

darkblack99 · #15 05-04-2007, 07:52 AM

One of the innovators of modern Rock bass. I studied with him also at MI...A real gent.

dabassr · #16 05-04-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PhR

How about this?
http://www.pattofan.com/Boxer/boxer-abs.htm

I haven't heard this; sounds interesting. I'll do a search for it. Looks like he wrote some of the music. Bogert amazes me in the way he can launch into an almost uncontrolled jam - and never loose the groove, especially in some of the early Cactus stuff.

PhR · #17 05-04-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dabassr

I haven't heard this; sounds interesting. I'll do a search for it. Looks like he wrote some of the music. Bogert amazes me in the way he can launch into an almost uncontrolled jam - and never loose the groove, especially in some of the early Cactus stuff.

I was hoping you had heard it and could give a recommendation if it was worth a search.

I have Boxer's first two albums and the first one is especially very good. The third album which featured Bogert was altogether a different band, the original rhythm section (Tony Newman and Keith Ellis) and the greatest guitarist ever Ollie Halsall had gone leaving the singer Mike Patto to pick up the pieces.
BTW, sad to think that 3/4 of the original band is dead, drummer Newman is the only surviving member.

jerry · #18 05-04-2007, 02:53 PM

One of my first influences too, I got to see him many times through the years, one of the reasons my first bass had a maple neck. Last year I bought the latest Cactus and Jake E Lee's 'Retraced' album with him on it, still kicking booty!

dabassr · #19 05-04-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PhR

I was hoping you had heard it and could give a recommendation if it was worth a search.

I have Boxer's first two albums and the first one is especially very good. The third album which featured Bogert was altogether a different band, the original rhythm section (Tony Newman and Keith Ellis) and the greatest guitarist ever Ollie Halsall had gone leaving the singer Mike Patto to pick up the pieces.
BTW, sad to think that 3/4 of the original band is dead, drummer Newman is the only surviving member.

I found it and ordered it (vinyl - apparently not available on CD). I'm not at all familiar with this band or the players. Looking forward to hearing it.

PhR · #20 05-04-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dabassr

I found it and ordered it (vinyl - apparently not available on CD). I'm not at all familiar with this band or the players. Looking forward to hearing it.

The first two Boxer albums were released on cd but "Absloutely" aparently never was, except maybe in Japan.
The lead singer Mike Patto and the guitarist on first two albums, Ollie Halsall, played in Patto before they formed Boxer.
http://www.myspace.com/pattotheband

Listen especially "Give It All Away". One of my favourite bands ever.