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06-27-2010, 05:56 PM
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I understand that is not really news to anyone on Talkbass but I was listening to the live version of Sun Goddess yesterday and for the umpty-ninth time, I was blown away by Verdine's playing.
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAx7jNtg_Cc
Completely laying down the the groove but playing tastefully at the same time.
This cat is one of the best that ever was.
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06-27-2010, 07:13 PM
|  | prefers electric miles davis | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | yeah man, i love that record. verdine is a monster on the whole album. live too. just killer stuff. definately one of my main influences 
love that tone too. thick, punch, and fat |
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06-28-2010, 11:31 PM
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06-28-2010, 11:37 PM
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06-29-2010, 11:13 AM
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Verdine White is a huge inspiration. |
06-29-2010, 11:23 AM
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06-29-2010, 11:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Dakota | | | Look closely at those live video's. There are numerous times where what he's doing and what you hear are different. It's been discussed here before.
I love EWF, and Verdine's lines on the studio stuff - assuming it is in fact him - but he is not always playing live. Probably too busy putting on a show and doing the choreography.
Not that it's right or wrong, good or bad, just saying... |
06-29-2010, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveC  Look closely at those live video's. There are numerous times where what he's doing and what you hear are different. It's been discussed here before.
I love EWF, and Verdine's lines on the studio stuff - assuming it is in fact him - but he is not always playing live. Probably too busy putting on a show and doing the choreography.
Not that it's right or wrong, good or bad, just saying... | prior to 1977 the band played everything live. The All 'N All album was so popular they made an elaborate stage show with magic tricks and stuff. The concert was pretty much pre-recorded. |
06-29-2010, 11:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego | | | Verdine is the reason I really started listening to bass lines (on the Gratitude album, as a matter of fact) and eventually (many years later) became a bass player. I will always be grateful for that and the joy that epic band has brought me over the years. I really ought to go see them again for him and Philip bailey, but since Maurice White has been unable to tour with them i just haven't had the heart. |
06-29-2010, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BassLife77 prior to 1977 the band played everything live. The All 'N All album was so popular they made an elaborate stage show with magic tricks and stuff. The concert was pretty much pre-recorded. | I attended a concert back in the late 70s. There was a studio bus parked out back. I peered inside and saw a pair of 24 track tape decks. I don't believe they were being used for recording, but rather for playback. I think they didn't want their onstage antics to detract from the music.
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06-29-2010, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by warnergt If I had to pick the all time best album of solid, groovin' bass, it would be "Gratitude."
Verdine White is a huge inspiration. | +2, probably my all time favorite album. I had an EWF tribute band back in the 70s, full horn section, dual drummers, the whole bit. What a blast that was.
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07-01-2010, 02:03 PM
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07-02-2010, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyr Correction, Verdine WAS a beast. He's fallen off quite a bit lately. | Even "if" that was true it's still better to be a "has been" than a "never was". 
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07-02-2010, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyr Correction, Verdine WAS a beast. He's fallen off quite a bit lately. | Sadly, I tend to agree. The clips I've seen recently seem less than impressive.
However, I don't know the whole history or even if what I saw was
representative of his current performances. |
07-02-2010, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by warnergt Sadly, I tend to agree. The clips I've seen recently seem less than impressive. However, I don't know the whole history or even if what I saw was representative of his current performances. | You try rockin out live the way he does at 58. He's never been considered a chop monster, but rather a groove monster. His band is dieing out around him, but he is still carrying EWF the best he can. Verdine gets all my props for being a legend and continuing to hold down the EWF grooves 35+ years later. I suggest you do some research. Verdine IS a beast!
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07-02-2010, 01:38 PM
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Builder: Classic Bass Works | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Temecula, CA | | This is slightly off topic, but I believe the highlight of my career came in 1984 when I played some gigs with Johnny Graham, the lead guitarist from all those legendary EWF albums and concerts. And I have proof. 
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07-02-2010, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremyr | I disagree That's a pretty unfair example, you can't even hear anything over the background noise
How about we just agree to disagree. 
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