Who to tour with Pino Palladino!

chucko58 · #1 06-28-2002, 12:43 PM

According to Pete Townshend's web site, the Who tour will start at the Hollywood Bowl on Monday 7/1, with Pino Palladino on bass. The Las Vegas and Irvine (CA) dates will be rescheduled.

Slater · #2 06-28-2002, 12:53 PM

I think they should tour as "Daltrey and Townshend" (kinda like Page and Plant) or something, and not as "The Who".

Christopher · #3 06-28-2002, 12:57 PM

Cool. Pino's probably feeling like Victor Bailey right now, but he'll do justice.

Richard Lindsey · #4 06-28-2002, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by chucko58
According to Pete Townshend's web site, the Who tour will start at the Hollywood Bowl on Monday 7/1, with Pino Palladino on bass. The Las Vegas and Irvine (CA) dates will be rescheduled.

Well, there's no replacing Entwistle, but Palladino's probably as good a choice as there is, especially since he and Townsend have worked together before ("Give Blood"--ouch!).

Who's playing drums--is it Simon Phillips?

The Mock Turtle Regulator · #5 06-28-2002, 01:34 PM

NOOOOO!

they should have got several bass players to play as a tribute eg. Billy Sheehan, Geddy Lee etc.
wishful thinking, I suppose, with all the logistical problems that would be involved.

other than that they should have cancelled the shows.

Pino Palladino seems an odd choice- has he ever used a distorted tone, or any kind of aggressive bass sound?
to me he represents bland (IMHO) 80's pop fretless playing.
(for the record I like Mick Karn and Jaco, and also David J's fretless playing with Bauhaus/Love & rockets)

couldn't they have got John Paul Jones to do the tour?

Peter McFerrin · #6 06-28-2002, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by The Mock Turtle Regulator

to me he represents bland (IMHO) 80's pop fretless playing.

Ever heard D'Angelo's Voodoo? There's nothing bland, '80s, pop, or fretless (

) about it. It's more Bootsy/Jamerson than anything else--earthy, earthy, earthy. And really, in the early days, that's what the Who were all about. (They didn't call their box set 30 Years of Maximum R&B for nothing.)

No, he's not the most obvious choice, but I doubt that Tony Levin was the most obvious choice to fill in for Chris Squire on the Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe tour in '89; it just happened that Bill Bruford was very comfortable playing with him, the two men having spent 4 years in King Crimson and then 3 years playing fusion together.

About JPJ: he's probably not interested in playing other people's music these days. Plus, I think his band is going on tour this fall, and even though he's in amazing shape I doubt he'd want to do the marathon tour thing at the age of 60(?).

RAM · #7 06-28-2002, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by The Mock Turtle Regulator

NOOOOO!

they should have got several bass players to play as a tribute eg. Billy Sheehan, Geddy Lee etc.
wishful thinking, I suppose, with all the logistical problems that would be involved.

other than that they should have cancelled the shows.

Pino Palladino seems an odd choice- has he ever used a distorted tone, or any kind of aggressive bass sound?
to me he represents bland (IMHO) 80's pop fretless playing.
(for the record I like Mick Karn and Jaco, and also David J's fretless playing with Bauhaus/Love & rockets)

couldn't they have got John Paul Jones to do the tour?

Pino Palladino seems like an obvious choice, actually. He's worked with Townshend quite a bit, more than just on White City. He's known well by the band, and more than capable. I do hope, however, that his tone sticks out. When I saw him play bass on Townshend's solo tour (where English Boy was played...can't think of the name of the CD), Palladino couldn't be heard.

As for Sheehan, I personally think it to be a very bad choice. I lost respect for Sheehan when he openly criticized Entwistle's playing in an article he wrote for a guitar magazine back in the '80's.

And, of course, Geddy Lee's a bit busy with his own band's activities, right now.

lushfreak · #8 06-28-2002, 04:03 PM

I don't know who Pino Palladino is, but I'm convinced the Who should just hang it up. (Actually, they should have hung it up after Keith Moon's passing.) Perhaps a Townsend and Daltrey thing would be palatable, but the Who are dead...long live the Who.

gruffpuppy · #9 06-28-2002, 04:08 PM

Pino is a great player but to replace J.E. I don't see it.

I think they should pack it up.

The Mock Turtle Regulator · #10 06-28-2002, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by RAM
As for Sheehan, I personally think it to be a very bad choice. I lost respect for Sheehan when he openly criticized Entwistle's playing in an article he wrote for a guitar magazine back in the '80's.

really?
that's a surprise, as in the John Entwistle interview from Guitar Player (from 1989) that's in the Bass Heroes book, he says that Billy Sheehan had written a fan letter to him...
Sheehan also mentions J.E. as an influence in his tuition videos......odd that he should criticise him....

anyway, The Who should definitely call it a day after this tour.
apparently there's been a lot of pressure from the promoters on Daltrey and Townshend to complete the tour.

Rien · #11 06-28-2002, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by The Mock Turtle Regulator

they should have got several bass players to play as a tribute eg. Billy Sheehan, Geddy Lee etc.

I agree. That would have been better. But like you said, impossible.

This will be very odd, without Entwistle. Will it even be the Who?

blackmetal27 · #12 06-28-2002, 05:51 PM

think McCarthey could do?

naa

blackmetal27 · #13 06-28-2002, 06:10 PM

http://www.johnentwistle.com/indexold.html go here then scoll down to bassist of the millennium. i think almost anybody on the first page will be good, almost but you cant replace john.

hitman9696 · #14 06-28-2002, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Rien

This will be very odd, without Entwistle. Will it even be the Who?

The Who always carried a scare from Keith Moon's death in 1978. Now, they are officially dead.

At first, I couldn't believe they would ever go on tour again. But, having heard statements from the Daltrey, Townshend and Entwistle's family, the tour will become a tribute to John. Now, I believe that's a wonderful idea. The main theme of the whole shows will be the Ox. Go and check out the article on MTV's and VH1's website. They have testimonials from numerous people (the band members, family, Claypool, JPJ, etc.)

The Who is dead. But, their music and legacy will forever live on. Same goes for Mr. John Entwistle, my hero.

P.S. Ringo Star's son, Zak Starkey is the band's current drummer. After their last tour in 2000, the 3 members considered him as an honorary member of the Who, because he was the best drummer they have had since Moon. Plus, Keith was his biggest influence and mentor growing up, not his dad

. John “Rabbit” Bundrick is their keyboard player since 1979.

**Josh Ryan** · #15 06-28-2002, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by gruffpuppy
Pino is a great player but to replace J.E. I don't see it.

I think they should pack it up.

ditto. a very strong ditto.

jerry · #16 06-28-2002, 07:56 PM

I have mixed feelings about this one! I love Pino's playing and I know he will do a great job, but I've seen bands cancel tours because the singer has a sore throat.....I think they should just give it a little more time before going back out. It's kinda like somebodys wife boinking the best friend a day after the funeral.....they can't need the money that bad!......and this IS about the money!

RAM · #17 06-28-2002, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by The Mock Turtle Regulator

really?
that's a surprise, as in the John Entwistle interview from Guitar Player (from 1989) that's in the Bass Heroes book, he says that Billy Sheehan had written a fan letter to him...
Sheehan also mentions J.E. as an influence in his tuition videos......odd that he should criticise him....

I read the article myself. I wish I could be more specific with which magazine it was. Sheehan stated that Entwistle was sloppy with his right hand technique, never anchoring his hand in one place.

No kidding.

Curt · #18 06-29-2002, 03:42 AM

I agree with hitman in that continuing the tour as a tribute to John is a good idea.

Just don't call it The Who.

The Who died with John on Thursday.

I met the man. I saw him play. No one will ever be able to replace the incredible John Entwistle.

JMX · #19 06-29-2002, 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by RAM
I read the article myself. I wish I could be more specific with which magazine it was. Sheehan stated that Entwistle was sloppy with his right hand technique, never anchoring his hand in one place.

No kidding.

Well, that's true about Jack Bruce also.
BUT, that does not take anything away from their greatness and I doubt Billy intended to do that.

Richard Lindsey · #20 06-29-2002, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by RAM
I read the article myself. I wish I could be more specific with which magazine it was. Sheehan stated that Entwistle was sloppy with his right hand technique, never anchoring his hand in one place.

No kidding.

But that's just dumb. Who cares? Technique is just a tool to create music; it's not an end in itself. To my mind, Entwistle created more music worth listening to than Sheehan has, so whether his technique is sloppy or not is irrelevant. Besides, who says you're *supposed* to anchor your hand in one point?

Now, if the question was, should an aspiring player try to imitate Entwistle's technique, I can see where Sheehan might have a point. That's probably not how you'd want a student to learn right off the bat. But when you're talking about a grown-up with a fully developed technique (however idiosyncratic) who's obviously making strong music with it, it seems silly to quibble about it.