The Who w/ Pino filling in for the late Entwistle

JacoLesFlea · #1 09-13-2006, 03:11 AM

I am glad I got to see the who twice before Entwistle died...it was during the time they were not playing My Generation because of the" hope I die before I get old lyrics".....I am glad they went back to playing it. Boris the Spider was cool though. I cant remember who the drummer was but I think his last name was Jones if I am not mistaken.

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JimmyM · #2 09-13-2006, 03:30 AM

If you saw them on the 1982 tour, it was, indeed, Kenney Jones. However, he's been gone since then, and the tour they did in 89 or 90 was with Simon Philips. After that, Ringo Starr's son Zak Starkey has been the drummer, and still is.

**bassybill** · #3 09-13-2006, 03:37 AM

I'm a big fan, and saw them on tour with the Entwistle/Starkey combination and then with the Pino/Starkey combination. Both gigs were great, but I was really surprised to think both times that Zak was THE greatest thing about the show. He is just a fantastic rock drummer; probably one of a very few who could actually sit in Keith Moon's seat and carry it off perfectly.

vindy500 · #4 09-13-2006, 03:39 AM

the dvd live at royal albert hall (i think entwhistles last major gig?) is fantastic...

Nedmundo · #5 09-13-2006, 09:09 AM

I'm a fanatic, and I've seen the band six times, starting on the '82 tour, and most recently last night as they opened the U.S. leg of their world tour in Philly.

Aside from the mind-boggling Quadrophenia show in 1997, I'd say last night was the best I've seen from them. Now that Pino and Zack have been together awhile, they sound tighter and stronger than they did in 2002-2003, and Townshend really cranked his guitar, so that sounded better than ever as well.

I have the new EP courtesy of a friend who found it at Tower Records, and I think it's great. It definitely sounds like The Who, which is an accomplishment in itself, but the material is generally strong. They played the mini-opera (akin to A Quick One) in its entirety, plus about three tracks from the upcoming album, which Townshend said will be out on Oct. 30. In fact, they closed with a new acoustic track with just Townshend and Daltrey on stage. It was moving, and a great way to close the show.

So I think a Who resurgence is well under way, and I'm thrilled. Maybe I'll try to catch them again in November when the Pretenders are on the bill.

As for gear, Pino was running a Fender Jaguar through two Ampeg SVT rigs. (I wonder if it's the standard model or Custom Shop.) His P-bass was on stage, but he never played it. Unfortunately the bass wasn't as clear as I'd like, but that's the norm for arena shows. When it came to the fore on My Generation, it sounded fantastic. His technique is simply incredible, and I think his playing fits the material better than it did on the last tour. Our hearts will always be with The Ox, but Pino's outstanding and I'm glad the crowds always let him know it. (Hey, in Philly that's really saying something.

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jerry · #6 09-13-2006, 09:24 AM

I saw them a few years ago with Zac and Pino, they were great! I think both have done a awesome job at respecting the past while putting their own stamp on the material.

JacoLesFlea · #7 09-13-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedmundo

I'm a fanatic, and I've seen the band six times, starting on the '82 tour, and most recently last night as they opened the U.S. leg of their world tour in Philly.

Aside from the mind-boggling Quadrophenia show in 1997, I'd say last night was the best I've seen from them. Now that Pino and Zack have been together awhile, they sound tighter and stronger than they did in 2002-2003, and Townshend really cranked his guitar, so that sounded better than ever as well.

I have the new EP courtesy of a friend who found it at Tower Records, and I think it's great. It definitely sounds like The Who, which is an accomplishment in itself, but the material is generally strong. They played the mini-opera (akin to A Quick One) in its entirety, plus about three tracks from the upcoming album, which Townshend said will be out on Oct. 30. In fact, they closed with a new acoustic track with just Townshend and Daltrey on stage. It was moving, and a great way to close the show.

So I think a Who resurgence is well under way, and I'm thrilled. Maybe I'll try to catch them again in November when the Pretenders are on the bill.

As for gear, Pino was running a Fender Jaguar through two Ampeg SVT rigs. (I wonder if it's the standard model or Custom Shop.) His P-bass was on stage, but he never played it. Unfortunately the bass wasn't as clear as I'd like, but that's the norm for arena shows. When it came to the fore on My Generation, it sounded fantastic. His technique is simply incredible, and I think his playing fits the material better than it did on the last tour. Our hearts will always be with The Ox, but Pino's outstanding and I'm glad the crowds always let him know it. (Hey, in Philly that's really saying something.

)

Jeez I am looking at your avatar...has it been 4years already since Entwistle passed away??? WHere does the time go.

OXploiter · #8 09-13-2006, 10:05 AM

I have tickets to the Oct 8 show here, and I cannot wait!!

The_D · #9 09-13-2006, 11:11 AM

Its not too surprising that Zack can pull it off. He learned from Kieth after all. Your dad is Ringo Star and Kieth teaches you to smash the **** out of a drum kit. I'd say it was a good head start in the business!

Nedmundo · #10 09-13-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The_D

Its not too surprising that Zack can pull it off. He learned from Kieth after all. Your dad is Ringo Star and Kieth teaches you to smash the **** out of a drum kit. I'd say it was a good head start in the business!

In an earlier show, I believe 2002, Townshend said Zack "learned at the Academy of Keith Moon, and thankfully came out the other side in one piece," or something to that effect. I loved it.

And with every tour, it seems Zack is putting more and more of his stamp on things. Last night he strayed further from Keith's original parts than before in a couple of tracks, which I thought was cool. I've been amazed by his playing since he first toured with them.

And I can't believe it's been four years since Entwistle's passing. I unearthed that photo in my avatar while searching for something else, and had to put it up there. It was taken at the Vegas Hard Rock, where the 2002 was supposed to start, the day after he died at the hotel. They turned the place into a memorial and showed Who videos in the theater that night. It was pretty intense.

davetakis · #11 09-13-2006, 12:10 PM

i'm a huge who fan. been collecting them almost my entire life. i dont think i could pay to see them now. no john, no dave. pino is a good bassist but i have some boots off of the 2002 tour and all the balls are gone. zak is the drummer they have needed since keith passed but i dont think pino is it. they should have grabbed chris squire, who i dont like either but he is probably the closest thing to john out there.

i read or saw an interview with john once where he said " i can take 4 guys out and make them sound like the who, pete can't." sadly i think that staement holds true. i would give my left arm to see roger and pete do an acoustic tour with just the 2 of them. that would be awesome.

kelbrihan · #12 09-13-2006, 01:13 PM

Who would be the best candidate for replacing John?
We already have a vote for Chris Squire, who I don't agree with. Who would you say?

I may get flack for suggesting this and mind you, he has matured.....Billy Sheehan

**Eric Perry** · #13 09-13-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kelbrihan

I may get flack for suggesting this and mind you, he has matured.....Billy Sheehan

Sacrilage!!!

JacoLesFlea · #14 09-13-2006, 01:53 PM

I see Tony Franklin getting the job done!!!! Any problem with that people!!!!!

Nedmundo · #15 09-13-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kelbrihan

Who would be the best candidate for replacing John?
We already have a vote for Chris Squire, who I don't agree with. Who would you say?

I may get flack for suggesting this and mind you, he has matured.....Billy Sheehan

I'll take even more flak: Geezer Butler!

While Geezer would be awesome, I think Pino's great. In 2002, I sort of agreed with the comment above about lacking "balls," which I think came mostly from his hasty integration into the band. His playing wasn't very aggressive, so maybe he was a little tentative while acclimating to the material. He also used a modern type active bass that IMO didn't provide the heavy growl the material requires. Neither issue remains. He provided more of the "over the top," aggressive feel last night. It wasn't Live at Leeds, but I was very impressed.

JimmyM · #16 09-13-2006, 03:05 PM

I hate to say this because I've never been a fan, but I think Billy Sheehan would have been good.

Dr. Cheese · #17 09-13-2006, 03:20 PM

I think Billy Sheehan would be great because I'm sure that the Who
is music he loved while he was still in the bas circuit, learning his craft. I could see Tony Franklin too although that fretless would bring out a different dimension.

duckbutter · #18 09-13-2006, 07:04 PM

I'd have to say Billy Sheehan as well, he's from tht "school" of playing.

kelbrihan · #19 09-13-2006, 07:05 PM

these_go211 · #20 09-13-2006, 10:12 PM

another vote for squire! i like his stuff but i can't picture him onstage with townshend and daltrey.