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Old 02-19-2009, 07:08 PM
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FWIW, I saw Queen several times with Freddie and now with Paul and also have the DVDs of both. Regardless of which vocalist you prefer, Queen never sounded as good live as they do now.

Brian could never cover all the guitar parts by himself even when he started using a harmonizer in later years. Now he has a second guitarist which makes a big difference.

Freddie could cover some piano when needed, but having a full time key player is a big help in covering the grandios Queen productions live over a basic 4 peice.

Although I prefer John's bass style over Danny's, John couldn't really sing (although he pretended to ). Danny can and does as do the other two along with Paul, Brian and Roger. You've got 6 voices to work with now where before you had 3. You think that doesn't come in handy when reproducing this stuff live?!

Some may say Paul can't reproduce Freddie live. Compared to the albums...Freddie couldn't either.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:28 PM
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Just for The Record, Roger Taylor is listed as the Bass player on two songs From News of the world. "Fight from the Inside" and "Sheer Heart Atack", His Own songs from that LP, Other wise John Is always listed as the Bass Player.
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Queen without Deacon? pfff

at least get Pino...hehe
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I'm one of those who'll be in line to buy a ticket to the next Queen + Rodgers show when it shows up in this end of the world. I'd much prefer to hear John on bass, but they can't very well drag him kicking and screaming onto tour with them, now can they? Nor can they bring Freddie back to life. At least Danny Miranda does a good job on the bass lines. I, personally, think it takes a lot of courage to bring in a singer who sounds so much unlike Freddie. I read in an interview that Brian felt if they'd done that, it sorta would have made them their own tribute band, and they wanted to eventually go in new directions.

That being said, I was a bit disappointed with the new Q+PR album, THE COSMOS ROCKS. Lyrics were not very imaginative (I found it pretty easy to guess what was coming in the next line the first time I listened through the album), the bass lines were rather unimaginative and thin, and I get tired of the anti-war 'hit on the soldiers' type of song - if you're going to do an anti-war song, go after the upper level of leaders of the countries, the people who actually make the decisions that send their people to war. All the soldiers do is follow orders. In fact, Roger wrote one such song for one of his solo albums. The only song that I really and truly enjoyed, and really felt fresh, was C-lebrity. In some ways, it felt like a first album of a group that's still feeling its way for its own style; perhaps that's because May, Taylor and Rodgers are still shaking themselves into a more cohesive unit...It wasn't a bad album, but it wasn't as good as I'd hoped it would be. I'm willing to cut them a little slack, although if they do another album and it's just as thin, I'll be more than a little disappointed....

All in all, no, it isn't really the 'old Queen,' but I think the change to the new 'Q+PR' moniker sets the new lineup sufficiently apart from the old. After all, if you really want to hear the old Queen sound, there's always a whole bunch of CDs to listen to. After all, as has already been said, almost every band who's been around for as many years as Queen has been, has had at least one and usually more changes in personnel. It's the nature of being in a band, regardless if it's a small, local band playing gigs in local bars and dinner clubs, or a major rock band playing to sold-out crowds in large stadiums. Those of you who don't like the concept, you don't have to buy the new CDs or tickets to the new shows, after all.
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Some may say Paul can't reproduce Freddie live. Compared to the albums...Freddie couldn't either.


I'd like to hear Paul Rodgers pull this off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JszN7h84TXs

Or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfYcK...eature=related

I'm not dissing Rodgers, but Mercury RULED.

And Freddie played guitar too - check out the 2nd vid from 5:31 onward...

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Old 02-20-2009, 02:35 AM
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I'd like to hear Paul Rodgers pull this off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JszN7h84TXs

Or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfYcK...eature=related

I'm not dissing Rodgers, but Mercury RULED.

And Freddie played guitar too - check out the 2nd vid from 5:31 onward...
You (like our other encounter ) missed the point again.

It's not Freddie vs. Paul (sigh). It's Freddie or Paul live vs. Freddie's studio output. I've seen Freddie enough times to know he would always adjust his melodies because he couldn't match his own studio performances.

Paul also plays guitar (if that's an important point for you). Neither one would cause Brian to lose any sleep.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:39 AM
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Queen without Deacon? pfff

at least get Pino...hehe
He's a little busy.
Plus he doesn't sing either.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:45 AM
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What's truly unforgivable is that Queen is touring without ME.
sigh... my phone must have been out of service when they called...
Danny was sort of "Grandfathered" in when John decided he didn't want to tour. Danny was the bassist for the highly successful "We Will Rock You" show.

FWIW, our late, great friend Adrian Garcia was also offered this show (We Will Rock You) at one point....and turned it down!
I never heard him say why.
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