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10-24-2006, 10:33 AM
| | | | If I could meet any famous musician it would have to be Victor. Would love to get to one of his bass camps one day. Every one of the DVD's he has put out has a lesson at the end I find worth while. I have never seen that from any other bass player. |
10-24-2006, 04:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm | | | Wootens tapping is amazing at times. |
10-25-2006, 04:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | I dont think any one is seriously doubting his ability, but a lot of people deny his compositional skills which i think is BS. Sure soul circus wasnt exactly brilliant but after playing and performing some of his stuff i have no doubt he is as good as anyone out there.
His solo piece The Vision is perhaps one of the most best and underrated solos out there. Also You cant hold no groove... man so groovy i played it solo and had people dancing, actually dancing...to solo bass!!!
IMO of course
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10-25-2006, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SkeetBeat sorry, i didnt mean on TB. usually it comes from people i meet on the street, or in music shops. they just dont understand.  | no sweat. and yeah, folks are generally stupid. they have to insult things they don't understand.
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10-25-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by john turner no sweat. and yeah, folks are generally stupid. they have to insult things they don't understand. | true dat |
10-25-2006, 07:10 PM
| | | Jeeez...everybodies a critic. Truth is Victor, Marcus, Jaco, Bootsie, all those guys have there own style. I say thank God for all of them.  Bass players like Victor bring the lime light to playing the bass. For the longest time bass players were just the guy in the background beating out the bottom notes, nobody paid much attention to them. But guys like Victor brought a whole new style on to the scene. Victor learned from listening to Stanley Clark, Jaco, Bootsie and today we learn and get inspired from listening to the new generation of players. I know Victor was a huge influence in the reason why I picked up the bass. I think it's wrong to sit and judge someone's playing style when I know most of us would give there left nut  to be able to play like him. Just my opinion  |
10-25-2006, 07:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH | | | post your grooves. I get sick of all the hatas. If you can criticize let's see what you can do. |
10-25-2006, 07:45 PM
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folks are generally stupid. they have to insult things they don't understand.
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don't speak for me. |
10-25-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Suckbird victor wooten is great when he isn't slapping.. that's not because he sucks at slapping but because slapping sucks... | You're great when you're not ... typing?!?  |
10-25-2006, 08:12 PM
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10-25-2006, 08:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stoneham, MA | | | No doubt he's extremely talented. I've seen him play Jaco charts on a fretless with what seems like little effort. That in itself is quite the task. The problem is that alot of his stuff is so cheesy, alot of people can't take him seriously. Also, he uses more analogies than Wyton Marsalis, which gets aggrivating. Doesn't make him a worse player, just makes people not want to like him. |
10-25-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MammaryVest No doubt he's extremely talented. I've seen him play Jaco charts on a fretless with what seems like little effort. That in itself is quite the task. The problem is that alot of his stuff is so cheesy, alot of people can't take him seriously. | Please post a link to something Victor has done you think is cheesy. Must have missed that .  I will admit he gets carried away sometimes with the speedy thumb, but I just heard "You Can't Hold No Groove" for the first time thanks to this thread and my admiration is higher than ever.
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10-25-2006, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MammaryVest alot of people can't take him seriously. Also, he uses more analogies than Wyton Marsalis, which gets aggrivating. Doesn't make him a worse player, just makes people not want to like him. | Victor is one of the most liked Bass players out there and taken very serious and not just only Bass players and I don't think that's going to change any time soon. |
10-25-2006, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X Victor is one of the most liked Bass players out there and taken very serious and not just only Bass players and I don't think that's going to change any time soon. | Its true and i think alot of musicians respect Vic who arent bass players or even 'popular' music followers (by that i mean stuff that is more popular than say classical or art music, which IMO vic deffinatley falls into)
For example, my high school music teacher, the most right wing musically conservative person i have ever know, got me into victor and live at the quick is in her top ten her favorite albums, which is saying alot. |
10-26-2006, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MammaryVest Also, he uses more analogies than Wyton Marsalis, which gets aggrivating. Doesn't make him a worse player, just makes people not want to like him. | Who cares? When you can play like Wynton or Victor, you can say whatever you want. It's the playing that's really important, not the talking. |
10-26-2006, 08:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stoneham, MA | | | Someone asked for something cheesy by Victor, get his newest album (soul circus) and listen to track....all of them. So generic it hurts. And when I say it makes people not want to like him, the people I mean are apparently people who do't "understand it" |
10-26-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MammaryVest ...get his newest album (soul circus) and listen to track....all of them. | You didn't like the cell phone tune? And the one with the Indian chanting, can't call that generic!
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10-26-2006, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris2112 If you form an opinion on Wooten after just hearing his double thumbing, you're missing the biggest part of the picture. | Exactly. When I was younger I was able to pretty much cop the double thumping thing, but it will take me a lifetime to be able to lay down a groove or burn through changes like him. If he never busted out the thumb again he'd still be one of the best bass players around. |
10-27-2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MammaryVest Someone asked for something cheesy by Victor, get his newest album (soul circus) and listen to track....all of them. So generic it hurts. And when I say it makes people not want to like him, the people I mean are apparently people who do't "understand it" |
no dude on this planet can make me move my arse except Wooten, teh b00tsy and Richie Kotzen
j00 just got pwnd! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ezqtm2PYGg&NR
anyone got a clip of Bass Extremes? its time to show mammary some real bass-ing!
never mind! found one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tUVro1rU36o
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10-27-2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by john turner i have yet to hear anyone here on talkbass rag on victor wooten for any of these reasons. link? | well,here is someone that doesnt like wooten (never got into his music)
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