Would you call Justin Chancellor a lead bassist?

ndrly · #1 07-13-2007, 07:51 PM

You've all heard of lead bass (playing higher notes on a bass guitar). I would consider Peter Hook a lead bassist. But does this also apply to Justin Chancellor?

Sir Edward V · #2 07-13-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ndrly

You've all heard of lead bass (playing higher notes on a bass guitar). I would consider Peter Hook a lead bassist. But does this also apply to Justin Chancellor?

I wouldn't know, I don't listen to TOOL. (The songs I have heard bore me

, maybe you could point me to some of their best stuff)

ndrly · #3 07-13-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V

I wouldn't know, I don't listen to TOOL. (The songs I have heard bore me

, maybe you could point me to some of their best stuff)

Lead bass stuff would include "46 and Two", "Schism", "Eulogy", "Disposition", and "Right in Two".

Sir Edward V · #4 07-13-2007, 08:54 PM

I dunno, I'm having a hard time giving TOOL a chance. For some reason I have it engrained in my skull that TOOL is a bad band, though I never really listened to the music.

right now my justification for not liking it is the music is rather dull/mellow, I like energy in my music for the most part

I'm going to try to give them some more chances... we'll see...

James Hart · #5 07-13-2007, 09:01 PM

I don't think so. He's a strong voice in the music... but I don't think he's a lead bass player.

CelinderMotoMan · #6 07-13-2007, 09:30 PM

He is a bassist, period. Where he plays on the bass is irrelevent, the whole "lead/ rythym" thing is so juvenile.

MCT · #7 07-13-2007, 09:50 PM

That's a tough one. He's an interesting bassist. I'm going to say that yes he is, because his lines are unconventional "lead-ish", and because I'm juvenile.

f'nar f'nar · #8 07-13-2007, 09:51 PM

I didn't think there was such thing. He utilizes every part of the fretboard in most songs. He does exactly what any bassist should do, play music and do it well.

Edit: I forgot to mention, IMO with only one guitarist Justin plays alot of melody etc. I don't think it's lead, its just doing his best to fill a particular part of a song. I think thats why their songs sound so full.

christle · #9 07-13-2007, 09:53 PM

From the little I have listened to he just seems to play for the song. I don't know if I would categorize him as a lead bassist but I would definitely put him in the interesting category and mark him as a player's player.

Bass Thunder · #10 07-14-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ndrly

You've all heard of lead bass (playing higher notes on a bass guitar). I would consider Peter Hook a lead bassist. But does this also apply to Justin Chancellor?

Absolutely not. He is lead, supporting, and rhythm bassist, complimenting Danny Carey perfectly. He can find the pocket in 5/4 over 9/4.

Put some headphones on and listen again.

lemur821 · #11 07-14-2007, 03:15 AM

I wouldn't say Tool has lead anything.

JimmyM · #12 07-14-2007, 03:25 AM

I've tried really hard to like Tool. Musically they're pretty cool. And then that annoying singer comes in with his whining. And no matter how wild the music gets, all I can think about is how much I'd like to beat that whiny singer in the head with a rubber chicken. He's even worse than that whiny guy who sings for A Perfect Circle.

Matt Till · #13 07-14-2007, 01:12 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds Maynard's singing to be annoying. People go on and on about how great he is as a vocalist... meh.

SirCanealot · #14 07-14-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

I've tried really hard to like Tool. Musically they're pretty cool. And then that annoying singer comes in with his whining. And no matter how wild the music gets, all I can think about is how much I'd like to beat that whiny singer in the head with a rubber chicken. He's even worse than that whiny guy who sings for A Perfect Circle.

If you like Maynard, I'm sure you'll absolutely love Labrie from Dream Theater :lol:

Justin plays lead voice in a lot of Tool songs. This is often because Adam Jones is making weird noises on his guitar. Often, Justis is making weird noises and Adam is playing a rhythem/lead lick.

I wouldn't really say "lead", but I'd put it more like... Justin's bass and Adam's guitar share a LOT of notes, and they don't mind sharing them when one of them gets an idea in their head. A few times I've confused Adam (especially on 10,000 Days) for bass, not knowing that it was Justin making the bizare noise :P
Make any sense? :/

JimmyM · #15 07-14-2007, 02:48 PM

LOL...yep, I feel the same way about DT's singer. But while I can latch onto Tool's music at least, I really don't dig DT's music at all. However, John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy are helping keep my pal Dave employed while Steve Morse is out with Deep Purple, so it's all good.

Baryonyx · #16 07-14-2007, 03:01 PM

Nah, I wouldn't call Justin or Pete lead bassists.

UncleBalsamic · #17 07-14-2007, 03:06 PM

I wouldn't say lead, but I don't think anyone in Tool plays lead.
He is very good though.

WalBassplayer · #18 07-14-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Edward V

I dunno, I'm having a hard time giving TOOL a chance. For some reason I have it engrained in my skull that TOOL is a bad band, though I never really listened to the music.

right now my justification for not liking it is the music is rather dull/mellow, I like energy in my music for the most part

I'm going to try to give them some more chances... we'll see...

Are you sure you are listening to TOOL? HUH???

Anyways, I would not say he is a "lead' bassist. However, I do believe that Justin plays the bass different from any other mainstream bassist out there. What got me into Tool is how he is never just sitting back in the mix like a lot of bassists in modern rock. A LOT of the time Justin is playing "lead" riffs and Adam is underlying in the rhythm section. Then Justin will go back into the rhtym part. WHat I love about Tool is how Adam and Justin trade off playing lead in almost every song. Just is one of the most tasteful effects users out there as well. He does some really unconventional things.

Pardon me that I am not chancellor but I can get close to his sound with my setup. Here is a video of me playing Tool's Jambi. You will see the beginning riff with the delay and flanger is taking the "lead" in the early part of the song. I think this is a good example of how Chancellor comes out in front of the guitar.

(Please pardon my bass humping)

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...deoid=12900791

Poop-Loops · #19 07-14-2007, 06:27 PM

I've only listened to them through the radio. All I can hear is Maynard's calmish vocals and then some sort of sound. I can't distinguish the bass from the guitar. =/

Infernal Affair · #20 07-14-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

And no matter how wild the music gets, all I can think about is how much I'd like to beat that whiny singer in the head with a rubber chicken. He's even worse than that whiny guy who sings for A Perfect Circle.

Maynard's the vocalist in both bands... unless you mean A Perfect Circle's guitarist, Billy Howerdel.