Christian McBride - Page 6

timobee4 · #**101** 09-06-2010, 10:21 PM

Here is a sweeping statement from the heart! Since Mingus and Brown died Christian is the only DB player worth listening to! I spend hours checking Patitucci, Cohen etc they are Great and inspiring!!! But Christian is THE Jaco of DB and I really thought when Mr Ray Brown passed away that I will never find anyone to look up to that way ever again. I was wrong! Been playing for 30 years and I believe that all my heroes reincarnated into McBride.

GrooveWarrior · #**102** 09-07-2010, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by timobee4

Here is a sweeping statement from the heart! Since Mingus and Brown died Christian is the only DB player worth listening to! I spend hours checking Patitucci, Cohen etc they are Great and inspiring!!! But Christian is THE Jaco of DB and I really thought when Mr Ray Brown passed away that I will never find anyone to look up to that way ever again. I was wrong! Been playing for 30 years and I believe that all my heroes reincarnated into McBride.

I agree that he is the most fun to listen to, and (to my ears) the best there is to offer out there, however I don't know that I would say that he is the ONLY one worth listening to. There are some others out there that I love. I've been really liking Ben Allison lately. More for his composition skills than his playing prowess.

Bruce Lindfield · #**103** 09-07-2010, 07:06 AM

I have been listening to his "Kind of Brown" album a lot recently - just the sort of music I like and the bass playing is great!

Les Fret · #**104** 05-15-2011, 04:24 AM

Saw Christian McBride live with his (new?) quintet yesterday. I am baffled! I am afraid to touch my bass today. A lesson in humbleness!

And that drummer....no words.

TheKirkNasty · #**105** 07-05-2011, 02:38 PM

Nobody is perfect. And if we compare ourselves to perfection we will constantly be let down, robbing us of inspiration. Christian Mcbride does his best to make music for us and he does a damn good job.

BAJO · #**106** 07-05-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by timobee4

Here is a sweeping statement from the heart! Since Mingus and Brown died Christian is the only DB player worth listening to! I spend hours checking Patitucci, Cohen etc they are Great and inspiring!!! But Christian is THE Jaco of DB and I really thought when Mr Ray Brown passed away that I will never find anyone to look up to that way ever again. I was wrong! Been playing for 30 years and I believe that all my heroes reincarnated into McBride.

Did you mean 30 yrs or 3 yrs of bass playing?

Thank you,

Carlos Henriquez

Les Fret · #**107** 07-06-2011, 01:23 AM

Got the Live at the Tonic Cd last week. Great grooves and playing!

Paul Warburton · #**108** 07-06-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by timobee4

Here is a sweeping statement from the heart! Since Mingus and Brown died Christian is the only DB player worth listening to!

Don't get out much, do we?

Bruhman · #**109** 07-06-2011, 10:16 PM

I saw Christian at the Blue Note in New York City about two weeks ago in an all-star band with ?uestlove, Booker T. (yes, from Booker T. and the MG's), Eric Krasno and Nigel Hall. He didn't even play acoustic on the gig, and on electric he rocked the house. He and ?uest were just creating bone-shattering grooves ala James Brown, Motown, EWF and Prince. That was the first time I ever got to hear him really stretch out exclusively on electric. Made me love him even more. He was mixing in this whole Bootsy, Jamerson, Larry Graham, Marcus Miller thing, but it didn't sound like a copy of any of them. Damn.

adarrell · #**110** 07-11-2011, 10:21 AM

I simply have never been wowed by the athleticism CMB has to pull off the lines does. While it can be interesting for a short time, minutes later I crave a profound musical statement from him, some reference to the song and not the lines I usually here him play. The act that he can play the lines he does at the speed he does is commendable, but the edge that his chops cause me to feel give me the illusion that he's taking a chance. And after studying his playing, I no longer hear the illusion. His solo approach comes firmly rooted from Ray Brown and the bebop language, which I love. However, I just don't think it sounds that great on the bass. The beauty of the bass can be shown in the tone of just a few notes, a reason why I dig guys that base their solos from the melody a little more.

kevmoga · #**111** 02-06-2012, 10:21 AM

Interloper from the EB side.......having just seen C Mc and Inside Straight blow the roof off at the FSU School of Music Saturday night, all I can say is you folk are a tough crowd - IMHO, no shortcomings in his technique or musicality. And what a band!

Tampabass · #**112** 02-06-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by damonsmith

He also has a lot of bad habits, particularly a very sloppy left hand that does not serve him well a large part of the time. ...

IMO, he made his name early and gets away with a lot.

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I just really think at his level with the amazing opportunities he gets, he could put more time into the bass.

Has to be one of the funniest and most uninformed posts I've ever read on Talkbass.
Give me a @#$% break.
Dude has played on thousands of recordings by world-class jazz (and other) musicians for a reason. And it's not just because of his "name."
Jealous, anyone?

Jason Sypher · #**113** 02-06-2012, 01:30 PM

CMB is a great bassist, true. There are literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of great bassists, true. Each bassist has his/her own thing. Don't waste time or opportunity on hero worship, you make yourself small. Hero worship, by it's very nature, puts you in conflict. Listen to everyone and everything. Sure, it's easy to like CMB, he's a very 'in your face' kind of player with a lot of funk and swagger and a formidable chops locker. But don't close the shutters and declare that he's the 'best' and the only one worth listening to. Why not push your ears a little further and see what else there is out there. Listen for what moves you in CMB, AND the guy playing at the corner pub. If you do, you will learn a lot about making music. And, let's not forget, when the mic is turned on, and the engineer gives you the cans, it's really about what are YOU going to play.

bassmastan · #**114** 02-07-2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tampabass

Has to be one of the funniest and most uninformed posts I've ever read on Talkbass.
Give me a @#$% break.
Dude has played on thousands of recordings by world-class jazz (and other) musicians for a reason. And it's not just because of his "name."
Jealous, anyone?

+1

Its like everyone forgot where he went to school for bass (Juliard). I've met him personally a few times (Sonny Rollins 80th bday concert, he, Bill Crenshaw, Papo Vasques and @ the Village Vanguard, went in the kitchen and we talked),he has to be the nicest guy I've ever met. He has a passion for what he does, and he is an inspiration to younger players.

damonsmith · #**115** 02-07-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tampabass

Has to be one of the funniest and most uninformed posts I've ever read on Talkbass.
Give me a @#$% break.
Dude has played on thousands of recordings by world-class jazz (and other) musicians for a reason. And it's not just because of his "name."
Jealous, anyone?

No, this is a case where both realities are true. Back when I wrote that, I just heard his band and his playing was REALLY rough. No list of accomplishments however great can be a substitute for practicing the week before a gig - the double bass does care what your name is or what you have done - only what you are prepared to do with it in the moment.
I have heard him where he just kills it, I have heard him where it so sloppy I had to walk out. He is great bassists and a human.

Phil Smith · #**116** 02-07-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bassmastan

+1

Its like everyone forgot where he went to school for bass (Juliard). I've met him personally a few times (Sonny Rollins 80th bday concert, he, Bill Crenshaw, Papo Vasques and @ the Village Vanguard, went in the kitchen and we talked),he has to be the nicest guy I've ever met. He has a passion for what he does, and he is an inspiration to younger players.

He went to Juliard for a year and went pro after that. He is a nice guy, but he's also human and like the other Smith said, there's no substitute for practicing and being prepared...that's when you sound your best. There's lots of recordings out there of famous cats making basic mistakes like losing track of the changes.

oliebrice · #**117** 02-08-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers

Name a bass player that can really do it all and I'll shut up.

Drew Gress

sorry, I get your point, but couldn't resist...

oliebrice · #**118** 02-08-2012, 10:06 AM

The recent live recording of Sonny Rollins with Ornette guesting was an interesting illustration of how specific McBride's jazz playing is - he sounds great on the Rollins solo playing a straight ahead swinging blues, but as soon as Ornette opens it up we're back to 1958, and he persists in nailing the changes and form rather than going with Ornette, which just sounds wrong... I wouldn't expect McBride to have dealt much with David Izenzon, but Haden shouldn't be too much to ask for...
wish it had been someone like Eric Revis on the gig, he would have sounded fantastic in both contexts...