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Old 09-05-2009, 05:44 PM
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DB in modern rock?

Does anyone know anything about the set ups that some of the guys playing DB in a rock setting are using? Specifically, I am thinking of Jim Creegan with Barenaked Ladies and Nate Query with the Decemberists. Both are great players who inspired me to drop my slab and pick up a realbass. I'm very interested in using the DB in something outside the jazz/classical/bluegrass setting and would love some input.

Also are there some other guys doing this? I know Robert Sledge from Ben Folds Five used a DB occasionally, and I have seen the bassist from Mutemath also play DB. Am I missing some good DB rock?
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Kaizers Orchestra is an excellent Norwegian band who's bassist uses a DB

My fave from them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYrPdOCM4y0

A live track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUYipC6auI

There are a lot of things I like about this band besides the fact that they use a real bass.
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I do it all the time. What do you want to know?
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Check the video Black No. 1 by Type O Negative, that's how you play DB if you're Peter Steele
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:47 PM
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Check the video Black No. 1 by Type O Negative, that's how you play DB if you're Peter Steele
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LOL I didnt know what to expect when I looked that up... That just looks ridiculous!
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:00 PM
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You gotta check out Tony Garnier. He's been touring with Bob Dylan for almost 20 years and he's currently the musical director of Bob's band, I believe.

You might not characterize Dylan as "modern rock" -- neither rock nor modern in your books, maybe. But I've seen Tony live with Dylan twice, and it's loud and clean and punchy and played with impeccable intonation.

Not sure about Tony's setup. Both times I've seen him, it looked pretty straightforward. Not mic'd, if I recall.
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:15 PM
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Also are there some other guys doing this?...Am I missing some good DB rock?
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:23 PM
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Shannon Birchall was playing DB for the John Butler Trio on his last two albums. Great stuff! JB changes his lineup every so often so Birchall is out on the next album but Sunrise Over Sea and Grand National are worth a listen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_Birchall
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:06 PM
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This question comes up often on this side. Use the search tool and find the answers.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:51 PM
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Shannon Birchall was playing DB for the John Butler Trio on his last two albums. Great stuff! JB changes his lineup every so often so Birchall is out on the next album but Sunrise Over Sea and Grand National are worth a listen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_Birchall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gAq...om=PL&index=30
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The John Butler Trio is a fantastic group anyhow.

Oh, and for modern rock and upright, check out Primus, and anything else that Claypool has put his hands on.
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I play in several groups, one of which is more rock than anything else. I use the upright in about 40% of the tunes with that group. There isn't much you need to know.

I guess one thing I would say is this - with the upright, I don't use my "stack" (such as it is). I use a small Genz Benz shuttle essentially as a monitor for myself (behind me), but use the GB's DI output to go into the front-of-the-house PA, which is the main source of amplification when I'm using the upright. (Unlike with the BG, where I just run through the stack.) Turn down the FOH monitor channel for the upright so you don't feed back, which is easy to do on a DB.

So take a song like Levon Helm's "When I Go Away" - is that rock? More than anything else. Was it recorded with a DB? Sounds like it. Do people dig it when we play it using a DB? Definitely. But it's no big deal making the switch. I just recommend using the PA as outlined above.
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I use a stack as seen here:

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It's not modern rock, but it is modern and outside the genres you indicated...check out:

G.Love and Special Sauce --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6kGSN0P8HA (i love a lot of their discography)
Medesky, Martin & Wood --> www.mmw.net ...modern jazz I'd say...
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It's not modern rock, but it is modern and outside the genres you indicated...check out:

G.Love and Special Sauce --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6kGSN0P8HA (i love a lot of their discography)
Medesky, Martin & Wood --> www.mmw.net ...modern jazz I'd say...
Yeah, ask a dozen people and you'll prolly get a dozen definitions of "modern rock". Speaking of MMW... I also like the blues/folk rock stuff Chris Wood from MMW has been playing with his brother lately as the Wood Brothers.

Hey OP (are you out there ?) seems like we've wandered a bit off topic here. There have been a few tips on setup in the replies, but if that's what you're after don't ignore Uncle Toad who checked into this thread in post #3 and back out in post #12. I've learned a lot about DB amplification and fighting feedback from his posts (+ tons of other stuff).
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Oh hey, how could we forget Djordje Stijepovic!? Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRnIG4cYLus

Set-ups? As far as Jim Creegan, here is one of the basses he uses:



Which looks to me like a very nice bass whatever it is. If you are interested in playing "Rock", a King Doublebass would probably be a good choice, something like this:



Or you could buy a laminate bass from a legitimate manufacturer (like Englehardt, Upton, etc...), install a pickup and plug-in.
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If I'm not mistaken, the bassist from Tiger Army plays a DB
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