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02-20-2008, 08:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC | | | Eddie Gomez Contact info Does anyone have contact info (preferably an email address) for Eddie Gomez? I am working on a Miles Davis research project and would like to communicate with him. Please contact me OFF the list.
David Perrott
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02-20-2008, 10:34 AM
|  | WJWJr Moderator | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Connecticut | | I have no idea how to reach him, but if you find him let him know how much I'm enjoying his playing on Eliane Elias' "Plays Jobim"! 
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02-20-2008, 12:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Fairfield, CT | | | PM'd | 
02-20-2008, 08:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada | | | Tell him "thanks for ruining all those Bill Evans recordings" | 
02-20-2008, 10:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dblbss Tell him "thanks for ruining all those Bill Evans recordings" | No thanks, I'll let YOU do that. | 
02-20-2008, 10:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | Pfft. I wish I could ruin recordings at the level that Eddie does. | 
02-20-2008, 11:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bozeman Montana | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dblbss Tell him "thanks for ruining all those Bill Evans recordings" | From another thread: Quote:
Originally Posted by dblbss Will somebody please explain the Ron Carter Phenomenon to me? Yeah he sounds great on those miles records but anything else I find suspect re: intonation, soloing, ..... | Wow dblbss .... is Winter gettin' to you up there or what  ? For a guy that only has 8 posts here at TB, mostly about EP strings, you surely aren't shy about jumping into the fray wearing hobnail boots. Maybe it's time to put on a Happy Face  and find something positive to say about those two treasured bassists. How's about putting on a Master's Workshop there in Southern Ontario so all the professional jazz bassists can learn how it's supposed to be done.
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02-21-2008, 12:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: toronto canada | | | Bob I think everyone is entitled to their opinion on who they like or don't like. I'm sure if you got all of us together in the same room we would disagree on tons of opinions, no one needs to say something good about a bass player just because they are famous, and I do like some Eddie and Ron. | 
02-21-2008, 03:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand | | | I'm not Ron Carters biggest fan either, but I know the guy is a motherf****!
I was listening to a late 70's CTI session he did with Paul Desmond, Chet Baker and Steve Gadd, and Ron is all over Autumn Leaves like a rash! His time/ tone and technique are inspiring.
Oh yeah and that goes double for Eddie Gomez. | 
02-21-2008, 09:37 AM
|  | WJWJr Moderator | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Johnson Pfft. I wish I could ruin recordings at the level that Eddie does. | What he says.^^^
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02-21-2008, 11:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada | | | Eddie & Ron t Maybe I should elaborate.
IMHO Eddie Gomez is obviously a bassist with great ability, no doubt. What I meant was his sound. That direct, harsh, nasally tone, I find, is too much of a contrast to an acoustic piano and more so Bill Evans. Yeah I know people dug that sound in the 70's but what were they thinking. Listen to how good his bass sounds on "Simple Matter of Conviction" or "Live in Montreaux". His playing on "you Must Believe in Spring" is incredible, I just cant get past the tone. You can't tell me his tone w/pickup and amp sounds better. I just don't think a bass needs to be that loud or upfront.
And about Ron. I love his tone and his playing back in the 60's but he is another victim of direct bass. On those CTI records his playing is great but it sounds like he's playing a Fender bass on steroids. I've yet to here a solo of his that I truly enjoy, if you have any suggestions let me know cause I'd love to hear it, I just haven't heard any. About his Classical chops. I've often read in interviews how he feels he got the shaft from an Orchestra job back in the day because of race. I don't doubt that at all. But go over to amazon and listen to some samples of "Ron Carter Plays Bach" and judge for yourself.
So I'm not slagging these guys as players, I just dont get why thier basses sounded like that.
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Hey Bob the EP's are gone too. Just didn't last. | 
02-21-2008, 01:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada | | | Let me correct that. I'm not slagging Eddie Gomez's playing I personally don't like his amplified sound on record. And who am I but a bottom feeding, jobbing bass player from Canada, but if Ron Carter is going to openly criticize Glenn Gould's technique and performance of Bach, I'm questioning his.
And Bob I never claimed I am some "Bass Master" and I dont understand the signifigance of me only posting about strings. Am I not worthy of starting a debate, cause I only recently discovered this sight. I honestly want to know what it is about his playing that people feel so strongly about. | 
02-21-2008, 02:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bozeman Montana | | Thanks Dblbss  ... I really do appreciate you taking the time to elaborate on what you personally find objectionable with their sound. I am also a big fan of a really nice acoustic double bass sound whenever possible (especially in the recording studio) .... not some nasely, honky, quackey amp-driven type of sound.
Often, without some background, "blanket statements" come off sounding kind of arrogant (to me anyway). I didn't mean to be a dick, I apologize, and now I'm back to learning something here at TB. Thanks for joining in the discussions. I didn't mean to insult you.
Realize that I am definitely a master of diddley-squat ... I've only been playing upright for about 1.5 years .... bluegrass on a plywood Kay  . However, I aspire to play some other higher forms at some point in time. I've listened to a fair amount of jazz over the years so your comments help me understand the endless quest for soul and tone on the bass. I think me and my buddies in High School in the late '60's in Montana were probably the only guys that owned 8-tracks of Coltrane, Mingus, Miles, Charlie Parker, and Coleman Hawkins  . And then there was Weather Report and Sun Ra ...... Lester Young kept me sane in college  .
Keep on posting Dbl and Best Wishes to You in your quest for "the sound"  .
P.S. Dbl and Neal .... I have no beef with you Canadian Gentlemen .... Afterall I am from the "deep south" part of Alberta (as my friend from Edmonton always reminds me).
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02-21-2008, 03:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC | | | The thing we have to remember is that many bassist are NOT fully responsible for their sound on record. I know many big name players have complained about how their bass sounded on certain albums. If you are a sideman you often times have little to no control over your sound. You can say I want this and that but after you record-someone else does the mixing and mastering. This has happened to many bassists. I wouldn't fully blame the bassist. | 
02-21-2008, 04:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada | | | Hey dperrott,
I hear what you are saying about being in control of your recorded sound. I guess what I mean is , if I was in that situation in a studio and they said to just go direct into the board ,and after listening to the first four bars of playback, I would say this sounds like total crap, get me a mic.
Like I said before I'm sure these guys at the time, liked the sound and the ability to keep up volume wise with the other players. And I shouldnt pick on these guys but they and many others chose to sound like this. We are talking about top notch, 1st call guys with the resources and connections to the best gear, not a college student scuffling to throw a demo together.
And Bob I'm glad we cleared the air, I shouldnt post after a couple beers. Thanks for the apology. Hope we can discuss more in the future.
So dperrott sorry for side tracking your thread this will be the end of it from me. Good luck with your research | 
02-21-2008, 05:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC | | | "I would say this sounds like total crap, get me a mic."
Yes but what happens when you go home at night and they do the mixing?
" We are talking about top notch, 1st call guys with the resources and connections to the best gear, not a college student scuffling to throw a demo together."
Yes but this happens to them! They have told me! I don't want to mention names or albums... | 
02-21-2008, 05:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Did I miss something? When did Eddie play with Miles? Or are you interviewing people who played with people who played with Miles?
Maybe you could interview the guy with MatchBox 20, he played with Benny Reitveld who played with Miles....
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02-21-2008, 05:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | You should be able to find out who manages him and establish contact that way. he did an interview for JAZZ IMPROV NY magazine last year, I think it might be listed in there. Used to be Helen Keane, but not no more...
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02-21-2008, 06:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cedar Falls Iowa | | | Gomez' Sound I think his sound has evolved a lot over the years. Its not very meaningful to criticize him for the sound he had in the 70's. Its like criticizing Zawinul for the synth sounds he might have used at different stages of his career, its a little beside the point. My feeling is that Gomez is one of the "Mt Rushmore guys", in other words, if you chose 5 iconic bassists from the last 30 years- EG would be right there. He has an amazing combination of gifts; great chops, terrific solo voice & concept, fiery time....I mean c'mon fellas, its all there.
and just to be really provocative- here is my Mount Rushmore line-up: read it and weep! (not in any particular order)
Holland, McBride, Gomez, Peacock, & Vitous
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02-21-2008, 06:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC | | | Yes I have his contact info
Yes Eddie did play with Miles. He is not on any available recordings. Many bass players subbed in the "second great quintet" including Albert Stinson, Richard Davis, Peacock, and other I don't care to name. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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