Jazz Master

[Coleman]

In ur opinion,
who is good jazz bassist?

[DaveBeny]

Originally Posted by Coleman

In ur opinion,
who is good jazz bassist?

A SHORT list - I've excluded the more "fusion" electric bassists:

Electric:
Steve Swallow
Monk Montgomery
Bob Cranshaw
Eberhard Weber (arguably more electric than acoustic)

Acoustic:
Milt Hinton
Jimmy Blanton
Oscar Pettiford
Ray Brown
Paul Chambers
Percy Heath
Charles Mingus
Scott LaFaro
Jimmy Garrison
Charlie Haden
Bob Cranshaw
Ron Carter
Gary Peacock
Eddie Gomez
Marc Johnson
Dave Holland
Peter Ind
Rufus Reid
NHOP
Miroslav Vitous
George Mraz
Palle Danielsson
Buster Williams

[frodebass]

Also:

Acoustic:

Mike Richmond
Lars Danielsson
Arild Andersen
Christian McBride
Michael Moore

[Coleman]

any other electric bass jazz player?

[DaveBeny]

Originally Posted by Coleman

any other electric bass jazz player?

There are few notable electric bassists playing "straight-ahead" jazz (for want of a better phrase). Electric bass is more common in fusions of jazz with other styles, eg. jazz-rock, jazz-funk, latin-jazz etc.

A small sample of "fusion" bassists:
Jaco Pastorius
Stanley Clarke (his electric playing)
Marcus Miller
Paul Jackson
Rick Laird
Ralphe Armstrong
Jonas Hellborg
Christian McBride (his electric playing)
Jimmy Haslip
Victor Wooten
Victor Bailey
John Patitucci (his electric playing)

[bass_means_LOW]

This "Fusion" catagorization is a minefield. Fusing what to what? You may note my impression that catagorization is dangerous. The minute you think you have somebody 'pegged' he'll come out with a project the may rip your wig off. It's all music.

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by David Benyahia

There are few notable electric bassists playing "straight-ahead" jazz (for want of a better phrase). Electric bass is more common in fusions of jazz with other styles, eg. jazz-rock, jazz-funk, latin-jazz etc.

A small sample of "fusion" bassists:
Jaco Pastorius
Stanley Clarke (his electric playing)
Marcus Miller
Paul Jackson
Rick Laird
Ralphe Armstrong
Jonas Hellborg
Christian McBride (his electric playing)
Jimmy Haslip
Victor Wooten
Victor Bailey
John Patitucci (his electric playing)

This entry is so bizarre....I'm so surprised to find that Christian is a Fusion player...I'm begining to be afraid to log in anymore!

[anonymous0726]

Originally Posted by bass_means_LOW

This "Fusion" catagorization is a minefield. Fusing what to what? You may note my impression that catagorization is dangerous. The minute you think you have somebody 'pegged' he'll come out with a project the may rip your wig off. It's all music.

Categorization is just fine, and part of life, so get used to it. After all, you're at a 'bass' site, aren't you?

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by Ray Parker

Categorization is just fine, and part of life, so get used to it. After all, you're at a 'bass' site, aren't you?

Yeah Ray, you're right.....I was just being a grouchy old man.

[Ed Fuqua]

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

Yeah Ray, you're right.....I was just being a grouchy old man.

I think Ray was addressing his comments elsewhere, ie

"You may note my impression that catagorization is dangerous."

Apparently categorization of things as "dangerous" or "safe" is not a dangerous categorization.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

This entry is so bizarre....I'm so surprised to find that Christian is a Fusion player...I'm begining to be afraid to log in anymore!

On http://www.christianmcbride.com/ it says :

"Upon graduating in 1989, McBride was awarded a partial scholarship to attend the world-renowned Juilliard School in New York City to study with the legendary bassist, Homer Mensch. That summer, before making the move to the Big Apple, McBride got his first taste of the touring life going to Europe with the Philadelphia Youth Orchestra, and also touring the U.S. with the 80's fusion group, Free Flight. He was now ready to tackle Juilliard and New York City."

I think that albums like "Sci FI" and the "Philadelphia Experiment", to take just two examples, certainly have tracks that are very much what I think of as "fusion" ? He's also said explicitly in interviews that he likes fusion and has put in the odd fusion track on his solo CDs, plus he has played quiet a bit with George Duke - who for me is like the "Godfather" of fusion....

Oh and he plays on the latest Diana Krall album!!

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

On http://www.christianmcbride.com/ it says :

"Upon graduating in 1989, McBride was awarded a partial scholarship to attend the world-renowned Juilliard School in New York City to study with the legendary bassist, Homer Mensch. That summer, before making the move to the Big Apple, McBride got his first taste of the touring life going to Europe with the Philadelphia Youth Orchestra, and also touring the U.S. with the 80's fusion group, Free Flight. He was now ready to tackle Juilliard and New York City."

I think that albums like "Sci FI" and the "Philadelphia Experiment", to take just two examples, certainly have tracks that are very much what I think of as "fusion" ? He's also said explicitly in interviews that he likes fusion and has put in the odd fusion track on his solo CDs, plus he has played quiet a bit with George Duke - who for me is like the "Godfather" of fusion....

Oh and he plays on the latest Diana Krall album!!

I apologized Bruce......Also said I was "surprised" Thanks for the education though.

[bass_means_LOW]

Originally Posted by Ray Parker

Categorization is just fine, and part of life, so get used to it. After all, you're at a 'bass' site, aren't you?

correct and pragmatic.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

I apologized Bruce......Also said I was "surprised" Thanks for the education though.

Oooer...sorry, I would say I'm thinking about Grandmothers and Eggs - but I don't want you to feel I'm being any more insulting!!

I suppose people work and live in many different musical worlds - recently I've listened to Christian McBride's last two solo albums a lot - especially in the car - and there is a lot of what I would call fusion. I was thinking of him spearheading a revival of fusion and I do like his electric stuff as well as DB and I was saying all that stuff up there, for the original poster, (Coleman?) who had asked about more electric bassists in Jazz to listen to.

[TJC]

While we are on electric bassists, I have to add:

Linley Marthe
Etienne M'bappe
Richard Bona

[Paul Warburton]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

Oooer...sorry, I would say I'm thinking about Grandmothers and Eggs - but I don't want you to feel I'm being any more insulting!!
I was saying all that stuff up there, for the original poster, (Coleman?) who had asked about more electric bassists in Jazz to listen to.

Bruce, you can't insult me and if you were saying "all that stuff up there for the original poster" Why'd you bother using my quote.? For my part, I should keep my nose out of threads about electric bass guitars and fusion...not knowing a hell of alot about either. I'm not too sure how much you know either, since you seem to have to dig around the net for your info.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Sorry -it was a mistake - I just quoted the last post that mentioned Christian McBride - didn't mean to be insulting to you - I'd just been listening to "Vertical Vision" in my car and thinking that this had some great bass playing and was a new, "contemporary" take on "fusion"!

But I've been insulted so much around here recently, I'm starting to doubt my own judgement - so look to other sources on the net, for verification....

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by BRUISED WINDBAG

But I've been insulted so much around here recently, I'm starting to doubt my own judgement...

Bruce, you big DOO-DOO HEAD! Don't worry, I knew what you meant. I was thinking of hipping WARMBUTTOCKS to "Vertical Vision" myself, but I've been busy and you beat me to the punch. Welcome back to the curmudgeonly fold, such as it is.