Paul McCartney why he's an Icon. - Page 4

Bruce Lindfield · #61 01-16-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

... what sets sir Paul apart has little to do with the contents of that clip.

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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

... I didn't come on to a public forum and say this is what makes him an icon!!

To me - that would be his songwriting! No argument!

That's what I was saying back on page 1!

But you have put it very nicely and succinctly Chris!

bassist1962 · #62 01-16-2008, 04:14 AM

I have a tendency to sometimes wonder; if the Beatles came out today, would I think they were great songwriters/musicians (as I currently do), or is that simply a product of my having heard them my entire life? He was a guitar player who took up bass due to nessecity(sp?) starting another Rock tradition.

I appreciate the fact that he has the nereve to get up in front of people and play the DB, but I would still rather hear him do his thing on whatever other instrument that he plays, particularly BG. Leave the vertical R 'n' R bass to Lee Rocker, Jimbo, and all those guys who have mastered it.

To me, it's a bit like John Entwistle, or Chris Squire trying to keep up with Danny Thompson.

**Damon Rondeau** · #63 01-16-2008, 06:29 AM

I don't agree that Paulie is just a "corn dog", a light weight who wouldn't have done much on his own.

Paul was the musician of the bunch, especially in the earlier days. You want someone who could imagine a diminished sound, who could deal with an augmented chord? Vocal harmony, etc. Paul was the man; he had all that British vaudeville (or whatever it's called) stuff in his genes. George learned on the job. John was an artist and seer who also picked up a bit of music on the go.

But it's a silly argument -- you don't have a Beatles without the pair of writers, and you don't have a Beatles without all of 'em together, including George Martin (the musical Big Daddy who pushed 'em a lot harder than they'd be pushed these days by a producer.)

Lennon & McCartney are just as important in pop music history as Rodgers & Hart or any other songwriting duo you want to name. Their styles are very much of their times, for sure, but they wrote a lot of stuff that will still be popular after we're all gone. They've got the same mojo in a lot of those tunes that you see when a young person picks up on, say, Berlin's "Blue Skies" and whistles it all day long. Timeless. That means something.

Britney ain't got none of that going. None.

Jake · #64 01-16-2008, 06:36 AM

Man, Britney can't catch a break these days. I can't stand all of this Britney "news." Most of these media people are oppurtunistic vultures. FYI, I am not huge fan of her music. I do like the Beatles though although I'm just now starting to fully appreaciate them. I'm definitely not a Beatlemaniac, but I do like good songwriting.

mccartneyman · #65 01-22-2008, 03:01 PM

When I had written as many songs as McCartney and come up with as many inventive bass lines, THEN maybe I would criticize his UB technique. But probably not. And only if I could play UB better than he does. Why be a snob?

Marcus Johnson · #66 01-22-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mccartneyman

When I had written as many songs as McCartney and come up with as many inventive bass lines, THEN maybe I would criticize his UB technique. But probably not. And only if I could play UB better than he does. Why be a snob?

Well, perhaps it's the one thing that I can actually do better than Sir Paul.

Aside from marrying, of course.

pedro · #67 01-22-2008, 04:34 PM

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Aside from marrying, of course.

Well he married pretty good the first time 'round so I guess Macca is batting 500. I hear he's dating Rosanna Arquette - wonder if she'll inspire yet another hit. Come on Rose, make it 3 hits!! She must be a helluva a girl.

Marcus Johnson · #68 01-22-2008, 05:20 PM

Nicely constructed, I'll give her that.

pedro · #69 01-22-2008, 06:54 PM

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Nicely constructed, I'll give her that.

You referring to Linda or Arquette?

Marcus Johnson · #70 01-22-2008, 06:58 PM

Ro-saaanna, Ro-saaaanna.

As my friend would say... "looks like a dead heat in a zeppelin race".

**Damon Rondeau** · #71 01-22-2008, 07:12 PM

Ever see Cronenburg's "Crash"? 'Cause then there's the leg brace thing in addition to the zeppelin thing.

Strange but true, it seems...

pedro · #72 01-22-2008, 07:20 PM

The Zepplin thing?

Bruce Lindfield · #73 01-23-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mccartneyman

When I had written as many songs as McCartney and come up with as many inventive bass lines, THEN maybe I would criticize his UB technique. But probably not. And only if I could play UB better than he does. Why be a snob?

So you just put every music critic who ever existed, out of business!!

I don't need to be a songwriter of any kind - let alone great - to know what is good and bad DB technique!!

I see "good" every week at my local Jazz Club or on the Concert Hall Stages of London; so it is easy to contrast with "bad" on YouTube!