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09-10-2009, 04:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denver-CO-USA | | | Red Mitchell - MUST SEE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOWaUR6ta0c
sorry if this has been posted already, but I got excited when i saw it. I quite of few Red Mitchell's recordings but I have never seen his performances. I am sure some people may not be familiar with him. Check it out.
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09-10-2009, 05:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | Two of the absolute best musicians who ever drew a breath. I have so much love for both of these guys.
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09-10-2009, 06:24 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Southwestern NY | | | +100. Yes, and Clark Terry could do it circularly. I first saw him at Blue's Alley in Georgetown back in 1966 (or maybe 67), with Keter Betts on bass. I swear he played for 2-3 minutes without taking a breath, but he was doing circular breathing, but you couldn't tell. He was one of my absolute favorite horn players. Although I'd heard a number of Red Mitchell's recordings, I never caught him live. It was really interesting to see his technique. A great tune and performance!
Thanks Bijoux for the link.
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09-10-2009, 06:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denver-CO-USA | | | oh yeah, and his phrasing and facility of playing was so beautiful! there is just something about being able to watch someone play their instruments.
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09-10-2009, 06:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Red, of course, was my mentor on the bass. When threads come up with his name I do try to stay out (for a couple seconds, anyway). because I've told so many stories about his playing, his tunings, his politics, his compositions, his basses, his piano playing, his brother Whitey and his general out look on life here at TB for many years now. (I think I even mention his bathroom habits once).
He has been my standard since I was 15 years old. I'm now 67and he remains so to this day. He really did it all.
When you read "Jade Visions" by Scott LaFaro's sister Helene, you'll see that Red was a big influence in Scott's life as well.
"Wasn't Red a great player" is one of our better threads on Red. Most questions are answered in there concerning the hundreds of recordings he's on.
Clark is and always will be a part of my musical life.
A true giant.
Even if you couldn't hear the mastery here, you can feel it and see it.
The clips with Bill Mays on the right menu are great too. And the ones with Zoot and Jim Hall.
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09-10-2009, 07:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Tx | | | The Bill Mays clips are amazing. | 
09-10-2009, 08:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Awright, already. Three PM requests in less than two hours..... Wasn't RED a GREAT Player? Red/Lees 5ths tuning interview.
Why do I hafta do everything around here?
Fer more, do a TB search under.....uh, Red Mitchell. 
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09-10-2009, 10:31 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by lhoward +100. Yes, and Clark Terry could do it circularly. I first saw him at Blue's Alley in Georgetown back in 1966 (or maybe 67), with Keter Betts on bass. I swear he played for 2-3 minutes without taking a breath, but he was doing circular breathing, but you couldn't tell. He was one of my absolute favorite horn players. Although I'd heard a number of Red Mitchell's recordings, I never caught him live. It was really interesting to see his technique. A great tune and performance!
Thanks Bijoux for the link.
Lloyd Howard | Actually circular breathing isn't that hard. I learned to do it when I played bass trombone so I could hold long tones without a break. It's a trick that requires a little coordination but once you get it down, it's easy. I still do it for a laugh. With my almost 5 year old daughter, I'll blow on her hot food at dinner to cool it but not stop for 20 or 30 seconds until she starts laughing. It's also a good talent to have if you have to blow stuff up by mouth. We have a little inflatable tub that goes inside our regular tub for the kids to bath in. I can blow it up using circular breathing and never stop blowing.
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09-15-2009, 11:59 AM
| | Registered User Brownchicken Browncow | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bijoux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOWaUR6ta0c
sorry if this has been posted already, but I got excited when i saw it. I quite of few Red Mitchell's recordings but I have never seen his performances. I am sure some people may not be familiar with him. Check it out. |
what a wonderful clip. Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Red, of course, was my mentor on the bass. When threads come up with his name I do try to stay out (for a couple seconds, anyway). because I've told so many stories about his playing, his tunings, his politics, his compositions, his basses, his piano playing, his brother Whitey and his general out look on life here at TB for many years now. (I think I even mention his bathroom habits once).
He has been my standard since I was 15 years old. I'm now 67and he remains so to this day. He really did it all.
When you read "Jade Visions" by Scott LaFaro's sister Helene, you'll see that Red was a big influence in Scott's life as well.
"Wasn't Red a great player" is one of our better threads on Red. Most questions are answered in there concerning the hundreds of recordings he's on.
Clark is and always will be a part of my musical life.
A true giant.
Even if you couldn't hear the mastery here, you can feel it and see it.
The clips with Bill Mays on the right menu are great too. And the ones with Zoot and Jim Hall. | Paul, do you also play tuned in fifths?
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09-15-2009, 01:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Nope, never got the nerve.
When I found that Red did the transition in a mere 9 days then walked into a Hollywood studio with a big orchestra under the baton of Andre Previn I said.......  .  
I do use a fiver with a low B tuned in fourths though, like Red did just prior to going to fifths.
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09-15-2009, 01:59 PM
| | Registered User Brownchicken Browncow | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Nope, never got the nerve.
When I found that Red did the transition in a mere 9 days then walked into a Hollywood studio with a big orchestra under the baton of Andre Previn I said.......  .  
I do use a fiver with a low B tuned in fourths though, like Red did just prior to going to fifths. | good christ......9 days? it's incredible how more readily available the notes seem to be watching him play.
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09-15-2009, 06:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Here. Read all about it. From Gene Lees' book, "Cats of Any Color".
Whole chapter from the book.
I posted this on one of my links to other posts up above.
The transition info starts at about 158, but read the whole chapter. Pure Red. The chapter starts at 143. http://books.google.com/books?id=nzx...age&q=&f=false
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09-16-2009, 11:44 AM
| | Registered User Brownchicken Browncow | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Here. Read all about it. From Gene Lees' book, "Cats of Any Color".
Whole chapter from the book.
I posted this on one of my links to other posts up above.
The transition info starts at about 158, but read the whole chapter. Pure Red. The chapter starts at 143. http://books.google.com/books?id=nzx...age&q=&f=false | awesome. thanks! 
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09-17-2009, 03:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wakefield, UK | | What a great video. Thanks for pointing that out. Such an inspirational guy  ,
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09-17-2009, 04:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brooklyn and Hudson Valley | | | Paul, thanks for posting that book excerpt. It's fascinating for both the jazz history and the part about tuning in fifths versus fourths. I never thought about it like that even though I played and was friendly with a cello player for many years.
Also thanks to the OP for the clip and the thread!
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09-17-2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck3 Paul, thanks for posting that book excerpt. It's fascinating for both the jazz history and the part about tuning in fifths versus fourths. I never thought about it like that even though I played and was friendly with a cello player for many years. | You were friendly with a cello player???.. 
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09-17-2009, 07:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brooklyn and Hudson Valley | | LOL, pretty harsh on cello players.
I wasn't able to play the clip (It Don't Mean a Thing) on the original post this afternoon because I was at work. Having just played it - obviously, it's great - I'm glad you explained about the tuning in fifths, or else I'd be wondering all night, "how does he do that?"
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09-17-2009, 09:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Check out some of his records in 4th tuning....you'll really be wondering.
He was a fabulous musician. (and person).
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