Scott LaFaro video

Bijoux · #1 09-09-2009, 01:39 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ftvARLrFKE

just found this. :-)

Paul Warburton · #2 09-09-2009, 02:09 PM

Been around for quite some time. Great.
"Cherry" is the tune. Old standard.
Richie Kamuca, tenor. Frank Rosolino, trombone. Victor Feldman, piano and Stan Levey, drums. (Same rhythm section as "The Arrival of Victor Feldman").

New header. Kolstien elects not to give credit to the players on this one.

Below is the original with credits....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gzwXQGvXgc

And here's the other one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN4Cr...eature=related

And one more time, my mentor Red Mitchell found the Prescott for Scott.
Altogether now: Buy and read "Jade Visions".

Bijoux · #3 09-09-2009, 02:25 PM

oh man! they made it sound like something never seen before!

well, they got me...
Man Scott was so assertive when he played! his time was so strong. I wish there was more footage...

Paul Warburton · #4 09-09-2009, 02:29 PM

Get the early records.
Jeez, I'm a few miles away. Gimme a call.

Mark Perna · #5 09-09-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

And one more time, my mentor Red Mitchell found the Prescott for Scott.

And the world owes Red one for that. BTW, unless I have my timelines mixed up, the bass Scotty is playing in the video is the Mitterwald that would shortly be stolen from his car (thus prompting Red's generous act). This video is from 1958 and I'm pretty sure the Prescott didn't come around until sometime in 1959.

mark

Paul Warburton · #6 09-09-2009, 02:56 PM

Ya know,.....well, I was gonna say....Mark you might just have something there.
Nice to have somebody around who did some homework.
You know who never gave much credit to Red for getting the bass back after the crash either. And I ain't talking about Helene.

Mark Perna · #7 09-09-2009, 03:04 PM

Like you said, Paul, it's all in that fine biography of Scott LaFaro, Jade Visions. I've been carrying it around and re-reading sections. It's an amazing book.

Would that someone have a bass shop in NY and have a last name that begins with K or am I way off-base?

mark

Mark Carlsen · #8 09-09-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calivox

And the world owes Red one for that. BTW, unless I have my timelines mixed up, the bass Scotty is playing in the video is the Mitterwald that would shortly be stolen from his car (thus prompting Red's generous act). This video is from 1958 and I'm pretty sure the Prescott didn't come around until sometime in 1959.

mark

I don't have the book yet, but just looked on Ralston's site at the time line... Lafaro's sister recalls that the Mitterwald was stolen between Jan. and Mar. of 58. This show was taped on April 7th, 1958.
Look closely at Video # 2 "Chart of my Heart" at 1:14 to 1:22 as the camera pans around Victor Feldman during his solo...Do I see Busetto Corners....

Mark Perna · #9 09-09-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Carlsen

I don't have the book yet, but just looked on Ralston's site at the time line... Lafaro's sister recalls that the Mitterwald was stolen between Jan. and Mar. of 58. This show was taped on April 7th, 1958.
Look closely at Video # 2 "Chart of my Heart" at 1:14 to 1:22 as the camera pans around Victor Feldman during his solo...Do I see Busetto Corners....

I stand (or sit as the case may be) corrected.

mark

Mark Perna · #10 09-09-2009, 06:43 PM

I take back my stand/sit. I just reread the pertinent section of the book. The show was filmed in early April '58 and the Mittenwald was stolen a few weeks later so it IS the Mittenwald in the video and not the Prescott. Assuming the book is accurate of course. I'm not familiar enough with the physical differences between a Mittenwald and a Prescott to tell them apart on an old video though.

mark

Paul Warburton · #11 09-09-2009, 07:10 PM

First off: It isn't MitteRwald. It's Mittenwald as in Germany. (as Mark Perna corrected in his last post).
Second off: Who said the Prescott is the ONLY Busetto pattern bass that Scott ever played? The Busetto pattern was not uncommon in Germany then, nor is it now.
Red Mitchell was playing a large Busetto pattern bass that he said was formerly Scott's when I heard Red at Shelley's Manne Hole with Mose Allison in about 1967.
IMO, the bass in the videos looks much larger than the little Pressy. (a rare 3/4).

(By the way, the Busetto pattern bass that you see on Red's Youtube clips is his Mathias Klotz bass....who founded the Mittenwald School of violin making).

Marcus Johnson · #12 09-09-2009, 07:18 PM

Wow... okay, for bonus points...

1.) What did Scott have for lunch that day?

2.) Did he take the bus, or did he catch a cab to the session?

2.) What color were his socks?

Clearly, I need to get this book.

Paul Warburton · #13 09-09-2009, 07:20 PM

.

I'll tell ya one thing that's not in the book, speaking of transportation.
Vince Gauraldi told me that Scott picked him up at the Airport in L.A and he said he was glad to get his feet on the ground again after that ride.

So, there.

Paul Warburton · #14 09-09-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Johnson

Wow... okay, for bonus points...

1.)

Quote:

What did Scott have for lunch that day?

Nothing. Too busy thinking about music.

2.)

Quote:

Did he take the bus, or did he catch a cab to the session?

Neither. See above post and was too busy thinking about music.
3.)

Quote:

What color were his socks?

Fergot to put 'em on. Too busy thinking about music.
Marcus, I fixed yer question #. You had two # 2's.

Quote:

Clearly, I need to get this book.

No ****.

Mark Carlsen · #15 09-09-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

First off: It isn't MitteRwald. It's Mittenwald as in Germany. (as Mark Perna corrected in his last post).
Second off: Who said the Prescott is the ONLY Busetto pattern bass that Scott ever played? The Busetto pattern was not uncommon in Germany then, nor is it now.
Red Mitchell was playing a large Busetto pattern bass that he said was formally Scott's when I heard Red at Shelley's Manne Hole with Mose Allison in about 1967.
IMO, the bass in the videos looks much larger than the little Pressy. (a rare 3/4).

(By the way, the Busetto pattern bass that you see on Red's Youtube clips is his Mathias Klotz bass....who founded the Mittenwald School of violin making).

I am going on the photo/drawing of Scott that Helen's hubby made of Scott from the Chicago sessions w. Pat Moran,etc. That is a Gamba cornered joe german bass ...Most likely his Mittenwald and the Prescott had the Busetto pattern

Marcus Johnson · #16 09-09-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

You had two # 2's.

That's a good day for me.

Mark Carlsen · #17 09-09-2009, 08:14 PM

Ya I can't spell MittenWarburton, but I can spot a bump on a log anywhere.... Now the Ribs......

jonas · #18 09-15-2009, 01:49 PM

Recently, there was a discussion going on at TB about Scotty's tone and volume (I wasn't able to find the thread).
At the CD "Pieces of jade", there's also a Bill Evans interview, and he addresses this issue:

“I never heard any sustaining sound in bass that could compare with Scott’s. I read once where anybody said he had a "small tone" or something like this … I just can't imagine how anyone could say that. He had the largest, longest sound of any bass that I've ever heard, you know … [laughs].“

Stev187 · #19 01-12-2011, 09:53 PM

This is an old thread, but I just found it. Fantastic info here. If that's not the bass, Kolstein should say so on the clip, don't you think? You guys know way more about Scotty's basses and career, but here's something else from an old ISOB article I have:

In a 1988 issue of ISOB, Barrie Kolstein wrote that George Duviver brought Scott to the Sam's shop to have the 1801 Prescott set up in April of 1960.
There are two articles in this edition, one on Scott's career by John Bany and a very detailed "Luthier's Corner" about the "LaFaro Prescott" restoration, which had just been completed.
Barrie credits Red with getting the 1801 for Scott.

I love that 1966 quote from Bill Evans, too. He also said that he and Scotty never played unless they felt like it ("I've never had an unhappy moment at the piano," he said). That's a little different from something Charlie Haden said in an interview that was quoted in this ISOB edition:
"Sometimes he would be sad because he was so frustrated in that he couldn't play the music he heard in his head. He played a with a two finger technique and had a bass he purchased from Paul Tonningess's shop. It was a Prescott, I think."

Not sure if others have this ISOB edition, but here's another great quote from that Charlie Haden interview quoted in the article:
"I offered Scotty a place to live. At this time he was always practicing the whole day. He would wake up early in the morning and go out in the garden and work out (push ups, sit ups, gymnastics), have breakfast, and be at it all day with the bass. He would copy Sonny Rollins solos off records and transpose them into bass clef for study. Sonny was one of his favorite musicians."

Here's a photo of the cover of this magazine.