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Old 09-10-2009, 10:33 PM
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Underrated Doublebassists

There are always musicians that are very well known, and I always wonder about the great musicians that go through life and never get their props. I like a bunch of guys, and I never hear anything about them. So back when Ron Carter, Paul Chambers, even back when guys like Walter Page, Red Callender, etc were playing and getting some sort of recognition on some level, other guys were just make a living as musicians and even though they might have even recorded with some important Jazz figures they are kind of forgotten.
Well, I'll start with Larry Gales. I never heard much about him, awesome sound!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhP1RgbrrY
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:39 PM
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Mike Todd from Coheed and Cambria, you have to listen real hard, but its good.
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Mark King --- he gets brought up .. folks forget he has the tightest finger style out there.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:49 PM
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Mike Todd from Coheed and Cambria, you have to listen real hard, but its good.
i 2nd that
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:59 AM
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Mike Todd from Coheed and Cambria, you have to listen real hard, but its good.
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Mark King --- he gets brought up .. folks forget he has the tightest finger style out there.
Really f***** up . . . these guys don't play doublebass, do they?

That's Larry Gales on DOUBLEBASS in the video . . .

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Old 09-11-2009, 01:21 AM
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Eugene Wright-He's known but not as well known as Carter or Chambers.
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:38 AM
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Check out George Tucker on Jaki Byard's 1965 masterwork Live! at Lennies. It's an AMAZING disc -- Jaki plays the entire history of jazz virtually all at once, and Joe Farrell never sounded better. Mr. Tucker brings together elements of Charles Mingus, Oscar Pettiford and Scott LaFaro to form a unique style which was grounded yet progressive for the moment. He died later that year at 38.

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Scout for two now-overlooked forces of seventies jazz, Clint Houston and Stafford James. In the 70s those guys were part of a crew of working NYC players like Larry Willis, Bill Hardman, Frank Strozier, and Carter Jefferson who made powerful, subtle modern jazz music that seems to have slipped under a bushel basket these days.

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I think that Michael Moore is overlooked. His two duo records with Rufus Reed are just so sweet. His live duo record with Bill Charlap is a piece of subtle, quiet strength and totally in the moment. Bill Evans' Getting Sentimental bootleg lets you hear Mike auditioning for The Bill Evans Trio, on Sunday at The Village Vanguard! And it is impossible to say enough about his work on Bob Brookmeyer's Live at Sandy's, the two disc masterpiece from the same period.

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Old 09-11-2009, 09:12 AM
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There are a few threads here where we talk about the unsung heros of the bass.
We mentioned several West coast players who spent years in the Hollywood studios....Bob Whitlock, Monty Budwig, Curtis Counce, Joe Mondragon, Bob West, Jimmy Bond, Carson Smith and his bro, Putter, Ralph Pena, Al McKibbon, Jim Hughart, John Heard, Albert Stinson (heavy enough to have worked with Miles), Bob Badgley and many more who were great bassists and very strong and even famous jazz bassists in those days.
Walter Booker, Whitey Mitchell (Red's bro).
Larry Ridley and Jim Ferguson (down in Nashville who is a great singer and bass luthier as well) are two of my personal favorites.
Our own Ed Fuqua and John Goldsby, IMO, need more attention and are personal favorites of mine..
Oh, and Sonny Dallas and Neal Miner.
Oh, and.........
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Ralph Peña is a bad dude.. I need to get some more stuff with him on it. The article about him in the ISB mag a few issues ago was really great (with some really sad stuff at the end of course).
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Ralph Peña is a bad dude.. I need to get some more stuff with him on it. The article about him in the ISB mag a few issues ago was really great (with some really sad stuff at the end of course).
I dint see that article, but he was an old friend and the duo stuff he did with pianist (one was called "Impossible") Pete Jolly were really beautiful. Also the Jimmy Guiffre Trio with Jim Hall was great as well.
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Andrew Simpkins, Isreal Crosby and I'd be remiss not to mention Butch Warren are all on my list of under-hypeds.

Plus 50 years of a whole bunch of local guys that most of us have never heard of.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:39 AM
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I cast my vote for Jymie Merritt. I dig the Messengers albums he played on.

Also Joe Comfort. Not a lot of flash, but lots of swing.
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I'll second Jymie Merritt for his work with the Messengers but my favorite tune is Angela which I believe he wrote for Lee Morgan
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:47 AM
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Jim Hughart is actually a rather new TB member who has only posted on the BG side so far.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:52 AM
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George Washington Morrow did some tempos wif Brownie and Max......

Oh and +1 on Andy Simpkins. I used to cop his lines and his sound when he was with "The Three Sounds" then met him later with Sarah.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:40 AM
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Canadian Dave Young has great time and sound, and is wonderful with the bow as well!
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:21 PM
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Our own Ed Fuqua and John Goldsby, IMO, need more attention....
And I generally whine unmercifully until I get it.
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I saw Stefon Harris a few years ago with Tarus Mateen on bass. He played some really cool stuff that night - threw some funk and reggae feels into the mix in places I wasn't expecting to hear it. All around, he came off to me as Not Your Average Jazz Player.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:05 PM
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We do this thread every so often, and Don Thompson always pops into my head.

And Brian Torff.

And yeah, +1 on Dave Young.
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