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03-03-2010, 08:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Seattle, WA | | | Emotions and Mingus I have to agree that Mingus really does evoke all those firey emotions. I read through this thread yesterday and decided that I should listen to some Mingus. So, I put on a disc and sure enough, it was soon God damn this and that and where is that f...in' guy who owes me money. Next, I put on some Thelonius Monk which really mellowed me, to the point of resigned laughter.
Maybe I'm just emotionally unstable and susceptable to suggestion. But, those two really had me going for a while.
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03-03-2010, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RD But, those two really had me going for a while.
RD | That's the essence of art right there. That, IMO, is what any artist of any kind is going for. The great ones in music can actually take you on a ride into their hearts and souls. Yes, it can be ugly at times, but for me that inner beauty of a soul that has to spread the message is more than worth the search. I can hear/feel my favorite players most intimate feelings in their playing. And, IMO, intimacy doesn't get any more intimate than that.
EDIT: I have an old vinyl of Charles with Hampton Hawes, They play "Laura" in the original key as a ballad (of course). Hamp just states the melody pretty simple and plain. Charles plays "Tea For Two" in the back ground starting with that G harmonic and going straight down in half steps to match the inner voicings of Hamps chords.
Now, that is hip. I always do that on that tune but make sure to give him credit.
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03-03-2010, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tomshepp Which is what Paul means.... right? WRGAF Not a response to Eric... right? | Right.
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03-03-2010, 08:57 AM
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03-03-2010, 09:26 AM
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OK 2 Spot the =^O.O^=
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03-03-2010, 11:16 AM
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03-03-2010, 12:05 PM
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03-03-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eggfan Whatever happened to WGARA? | The blue pill? What, are they off the market?
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03-03-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Higdon The blue pill? What, are they off the market? | Not judging by my morning emails.
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03-04-2010, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton FFWE
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OK | GOT IT!
Fuqua F***s With Everybody!
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03-04-2010, 10:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | OK You Jive. But, I'll take it. Much more true than Finds Fault With Everybody" like you know it says @ Google.
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03-05-2010, 04:37 AM
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03-05-2010, 01:30 PM
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03-05-2010, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Treyzer Just finished Red Callender's book. It's a very interesting read. He says he gave Mr. Mingus some bass lessons when Charlie was young. | Funny, Trey......."Unfinished Dream". I just finished it last week. He gave it to me with his autograph while we were waiting to board the USS Norway for their Jazz Cruise thing in
1996. He was with the Cheatham's and I was with Terry Gibbs and Buddy DeFranco. I walked into the waiting room and laid my bass next to a bass trunk that had the **** kicked out of it, but read...."Bass trunk courtesy of Red Callender." Red headed black folks aren't hard to pick out of a crowd so I headed over to him. He asked the guy next to him to move over a chair and patted the chair offering me a sit down. Almost two hours of fabulous stories about the early days in the Hollywood movie and recording industries.
We hung out a couple times after that on-board too.
I got busy and never cracked it until last month. It ended up in storage for a long time.
One thing that many jazz and studio bass players in LA. had in common....Red Mitchell, Red Callender, Mingus and many others is that they all spent some time with one of the greatest DB teachers who ever lived....the great Herman Rheinshagen.
Back on topic. (sorry about the OT, I guess)
EDIT and BTW: Next time you rent "Blazing Saddles", look at who appears to be the white bass player with The Basie Band out in the desert. Red........
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03-05-2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Funny, Trey......."Unfinished Dream". I just finished it last week. He gave it to me with his autograph while we were waiting to board the USS Norway for their Jazz Cruise thing in
1996.
EDIT and BTW: Next time you rent "Blazing Saddles", look at who appears to be the white bass player with The Basie Band out in the desert. Red........ | Sometimes I think you say this stuff to make me jealous because I know you're not making it up! 
For me, it was an amazing read. I think he states in the book that he did the Basie Band in "Blazing Saddles". All the early session stuff certainly had the ring of truth. Way before my time but for me, very interesting.
P.S. saw D. Grusin many times at the "Baked Potato" when he was playing with Lee and Harvey. Bill Dickenson, the original bass player before Abe, comes over here to Kauai about once a year. We got re-connected when he came into a dinner club I was playing and asked if I wasn't T--- T-------, who had played with Larry Carlton for a minute. My jaw dropped as I'm always suprised when someone from my past re-introduces themselves. Jai Winding did the same thing to me a few years ago! It's a very Small World. Yeah, I Know, I'm dropping a few names. I.I.W.I.I. (It is what it is)
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03-06-2010, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Anybody who thinks Mingus "hated white people" should do some serious reading. | True. Miles Davis had some things to say about knowing Mingus in his Autobiography. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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