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Old 10-11-2009, 09:08 PM
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Bridge slid off, top seems to be lower on treble side

Tonight at rehearsal, my bridge slid off in the middle of playing. I tried to put it back on, but the foot of the treble side was maybe 1/8 of an inch lower than the bass side. Where the foot rests is now completely flat on the treble side, whereas the bass side still has the slight curve. Is this something that can just be reinforced? What kinda repair bill might I be looking at?
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:32 PM
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Tonight at rehearsal, my bridge slid off in the middle of playing. I tried to put it back on, but the foot of the treble side was maybe 1/8 of an inch lower than the bass side. Where the foot rests is now completely flat on the treble side, whereas the bass side still has the slight curve. Is this something that can just be reinforced? What kinda repair bill might I be looking at?
Did the sound post fall?! My advice: Get the tension off that top RIGHT NOW and have it checked ASAP!
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:33 PM
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Sound post is still up and doesn't seem to have moved.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:36 PM
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Sound post is still up and doesn't seem to have moved.
If the G-side of the top suddenly sunk like that, then my advice still stands. Get the tension off the top and get to a good luthier.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:38 PM
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Thanks. Any idea if it's a terminal kinda issue? Or what procedure they would do on it? The bass is kinda a beater, but I need it this coming weekend for gigs.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:40 PM
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Thanks. Any idea if it's a terminal kinda issue? Or what procedure they would do on it? The bass is kinda a beater, but I need it this coming weekend for gigs.
Indeed, I have a number ideas but it really has to be seen-- and by someone skilled in luthiery. Too many possibilities to comment but if a sudden change occurred in the profile of the top, then it doesn't sound good at all. Under normal circumstances, bridges under tension don't just slide off unless they suffer a substantial blow. Something sounds quite amiss. Sorry.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:07 PM
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Ugh, well maybe it's time for a new upright. Thanks for the quick response!

Sidenote - anyone know of a good luthier in Dallas?
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:33 AM
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Is this a laminate or a hybrid? My guess is the back is laminated and has pushed out from the sound post allowing the top to sink on the treb side. A 4" round spruce soundpost platform glued on the back (inside) and a series of soundposts (each one taller than the last over a year...like braces on a teenager) will train the top back into place....then a similar soundpost platform for the top once the shape is restored a bit.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:47 AM
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Sidenote - anyone know of a good luthier in Dallas?
Cody Sisk, @ Dallas Strings posts here. Do a TB search.
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Thanks Paul, he's bringing it by today for me to have a look..
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Is this a laminate or a hybrid? My guess is the back is laminated and has pushed out from the sound post allowing the top to sink on the treb side. A 4" round spruce soundpost platform glued on the back (inside) and a series of soundposts (each one taller than the last over a year...like braces on a teenager) will train the top back into place....then a similar soundpost platform for the top once the shape is restored a bit.
Can this work with a plywood top as well?
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Cody - Thanks a ton, you're awesome.

Everyone else - Please drive from far and wide to patronize Cody's shop.
Eh-- so what happened?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:03 PM
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Sorry, here's the story.

The soundpost had slid down pretty far, and the bridge lost grip and fell off. The top has gone a little concave where the bridge rests, but with the soundpost back where it was, it plays/sounds like it used to. Long term I might have to have the top reinforced, but the bass isn't worth enough to really spend more than a few hundred on.

I took it in and Cody reshaped the end of the soundpost so it would sit flush with the top, and reset it for me. He also fashioned some basswood inserts to hold my K&K piezo on the bridge. All free of charge. Crisis averted and I'm set for my gigs.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:27 PM
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Sorry, here's the story.

The soundpost had slid down pretty far, and the bridge lost grip and fell off. The top has gone a little concave where the bridge rests, but with the soundpost back where it was, it plays/sounds like it used to. Long term I might have to have the top reinforced, but the bass isn't worth enough to really spend more than a few hundred on.

I took it in and Cody reshaped the end of the soundpost so it would sit flush with the top, and reset it for me. He also fashioned some basswood inserts to hold my K&K piezo on the bridge. All free of charge. Crisis averted and I'm set for my gigs.

All's well that ends well.
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Bah.. I didn't cut enough wood to warrant charging him. We spent more time trying out my basses and gabbing than I did actually working on his bass.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:14 PM
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Bah.. I didn't cut enough wood to warrant charging him. We spent more time trying out my basses and gabbing than I did actually working on his bass.
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