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Old 10-20-2006, 01:53 AM
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C-Extension Length?

How do you determine the length? In high school physics class I learned that the relationship between the C and E for the same string and tension should be 5/4, meaning the extension should be 25% of the length of original E. In practice, that seems to be too short. On my Pfretchner that percentage is something around 26.3% I suppose that clamping the string at the E would increase tension somewhat. Is that all that is at play here?
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Old 10-20-2006, 02:52 AM
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Use a fret Calculator, double the string length so that your nut is the octave, then just count down in frets from the twelfth to C [8th] and there you are.
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Old 10-20-2006, 06:37 AM
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Use a fret Calculator, double the string length so that your nut is the octave, then just count down in frets from the twelfth to C [8th] and there you are.
I've tried this and it gets pretty close. But every string will intonate a little differently, and you need some adjustability in the extension's nut to get everything right. It's like bridge saddles which compensate on guitars and bass guitars. I use the rough formula of: string length divided by four, add about 1/4" (roughly 7mm). Also, turning the E latch into position tends to raise the pitch compared to fingering the note, so there's some fine tuning that needs to be done to get both C and E in tune.
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:10 PM
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I've tried this and it gets pretty close. But every string will intonate a little differently, and you need some adjustability in the extension's nut to get everything right. It's like bridge saddles which compensate on guitars and bass guitars. I use the rough formula of: string length divided by four, add about 1/4" (roughly 7mm). Also, turning the E latch into position tends to raise the pitch compared to fingering the note, so there's some fine tuning that needs to be done to get both C and E in tune.
I kind’a figured that would be the case, intonation and compensation you can't get out of it can you?
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:51 PM
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Try listening to a bass section playing an Ab in 1st pos/E-str and tell me how in-tune they are (or not?) as soon as they draw the Bow!
ken, you hit the nail right on the head...
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