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Old 04-22-2011, 11:31 AM
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E string issue on Shen Willow

I've discovered an odd issue with my bass now that I am getting into playing a bit more arco.

If I pizz the low G on the E string and play in tune and then try the same note with the bow it goes flat. Not apparent on any of the other strings.

I will certainly experiment with technique but at the moment I have to play a bowed G in a different place than the pizza G.

Anyone have any input into what is happening here.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:36 AM
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Probably not the same thing, since you've actually been doing this for years, but... I had the same issue when I was first starting (by which I mean, three months ago - I'm a super-newb).

Turned out that I just wasn't getting the string stopped well enough, and I needed to get a little more leverage on the string.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:01 PM
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I haven't spent a lot of time exploring this, Steve, but I have noticed some similar things. I'm not sure it's a setup issue.

My thoughts are that a plucked string's pitch starts to decay immediately, faster or slower depending on the string, but still starts its pitch decay right away. A bowed string does not. That could explain what you are starting a pizz note a tiny bit sharper than a bowed note. By the time your ear acquires that pitch, it has dropped a bit. Just a theory.

Another is that the weight of the bow can change the length of the string, whereas with a pizz'ed note, as soon as it is released, the string is free to osculate back through it's original position. We know that the length of the string is one of only a few things that do influence the pitch. Try experimenting with different bow weights to see if you can effect the pitch from a consistent left hand position or open string. I can and my arco technique is not consistent enough for me to do it on purpose, while I'm actually playing something.

Just my thoughts from having wondered about this before. I could be way off base.
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:01 PM
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Could be a wolf tone.
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Old 04-23-2011, 10:07 AM
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Thanks for the thoughts. I will experiment with the bow some more and see what weight/pressure does. I would have thought that too much weight would have sent the note sharp.
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Could be a wolf tone.
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There is a store in Toronto selling 30 and 20 gram. What should I get?
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