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07-10-2005, 08:28 PM
| | Bass Head | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Aussie expat in Saudi Arabia | | | fingerboard mod
Guys, if I'm not going to ever bow my bass, can I sand the bevel down and just have a radiused fingerboard? Will it make any difference to the playability?
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07-11-2005, 04:48 PM
| | Supporting Member/Luthier | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | | The usual process is to plane the bevel out using a block plane or similar cutting tool, then sand the facets into a smooth radiused board. However, this sounds easier than it is... take it to a experienced technician/luthier... not a simple do-it-yourself job.
By the way, pizz and arco players use both bevelled and non-bevelled fingerboards... |
07-11-2005, 10:14 PM
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Jeff Sahs planed my fingerboard, rounding the bevel at the same time. Did a fine job, & I still sound awful w/a bow(absolutely not his or the bass' fault). |
07-12-2005, 06:51 AM
| | Bass Head | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Aussie expat in Saudi Arabia | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by nicklloyd ...take it to a experienced technician/luthier... not a simple do-it-yourself job... | Compared to what I could find locally, I'm probably the best luthier I know - I'm in Saudi Arabia so it might have to be a DIY job!
Thanks anyway... 
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07-12-2005, 10:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada | | | Why do you want to remove the bevel? Having had both beveled and non- beveled boards, I can't imagine why that would be necessary.
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07-12-2005, 11:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Won't you have to have the bridge similarly arced?
EJ - most of the time I see this done, it's cats coming over from BG, the bevel feels funny so they get it removed.
SAW DE BILLY-O - after you been playing for awhile it kind of doesn't matter, as DONO says he generally doesn't notice if there's a bevel or not. You just play.
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07-12-2005, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Won't you have to have the bridge similarly arced? ...most of the time I see this done, it's cats coming over from BG, the bevel feels funny so they get it removed... | Yeah, I assumed that the bridge would have to be done too. I thought the bevel was mainly there to give "room" for the strings to be bowed and was therefore basically unnecessary if I wasn't going to use the bow. If I removed it, it would no doubt feel more "natural" coming from playing BG to it. You're right tho, I'll get used to it.
Anyway, it's too damned hot to do anything right now - 48C today (about 118F)!!!
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07-12-2005, 02:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada | | | Oilybill, I don't think I'd be too quick to be taking a plane to that board if I wuz you. If you're new to double bass, it's gonna feel big and wierd bevel or no bevel. Right now you have something that's playable that feels a little strange. If you go planing the bevel off the board without really knowing what you're doing you could end up with something that feels really strange that isn't playable.
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07-12-2005, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by billio Anyway, it's too damned hot to do anything right now - 48C today (about 118F)!!! | Yeah, but it's a dry heat....sorry, subtle liquor joke.
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07-12-2005, 03:02 PM
|  | Journeyman Clam Artist Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, baby | | | You can bow the beast bevel or not.
If you change the fingerboard profile then the bridge is gonna have to be adapted to the new profile.
I'd leave it alone. You've got better things to do!
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07-14-2005, 01:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA USA | | | Save yourself the trouble, because the bevel is usually preferred for pizzacato over arco, anyway.
I came from EBG two years ago and my first DB had the bevel. My second, obtained this year does not. They do feel different, but the bevel is not the most noticeable difference. I think if you had 2 identical basses with the bevel the only difference, blind folded it would be hard to tell them apart with the left hand. The plucking fingers might feel it missing a little more.
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07-14-2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Silversorcerer Save yourself the trouble, because the bevel is usually preferred for pizzacato over arco, anyway. | Really? I notice no appreciable difference. |
07-14-2005, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Yeah, but it's a dry heat....sorry, subtle liquor joke. | ...humour, I get it.... 
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07-21-2005, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Yeah, but it's a dry heat....sorry, subtle liquor joke. | I'm here through Wednesday....try the veal.
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07-21-2005, 07:29 AM
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07-21-2005, 08:19 AM
| | Jeff Bollbach Luthier, Inc. | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: freeport, ny | | | [quote=Silversorcerer]Save yourself the trouble, because the bevel is usually preferred for pizzacato over arco, anyway.
Actually the "Romberg bevel", developed bythe great cellist Bernhard Romberg a few years back, was designed to allow for a greater range of arco work. Somebody said something a while ago about the spreading of disinformation and its negative effect on this board. Who was that? |
07-21-2005, 09:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Norway, Leikong | | [quote=Jeff Bollbach] Quote: |
Originally Posted by Silversorcerer Save yourself the trouble, because the bevel is usually preferred for pizzacato over arco, anyway.
Actually the "Romberg bevel", developed bythe great cellist Bernhard Romberg a few years back, was designed to allow for a greater range of arco work. Somebody said something a while ago about the spreading of disinformation and its negative effect on this board. Who was that? | It's surprising to see the number of statements coming from novices(no insult intended, I consider myself as one) regarding basses, set-up and repair given the high qualified luthiers contributing to this board. Off course, everyone is free to speak and discussions are a good thing, but it doesn't hurt to show some humility from time to time  |
07-21-2005, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by oystein but it doesn't hurt to show some humility from time to time | What the hell do ya mean by that??
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07-21-2005, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton What the hell do ya mean by that?? | Would you like me to elaborate? |
07-21-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Silversorcerer ...the bevel is usually preferred for pizzacato over arco, anyway.
I came from EBG two years ago... | ..as opposed to Jeff's decades of experience as a luthier.
I think that's what he means, Paul.
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