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Old 03-23-2008, 01:44 AM
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good source for wood

Anyone know a good source for slab cut pine for a top and poplar ( I was told to look for tulip poplar---didn't know that there was a difference) for a back and ribs?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:37 PM
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Oh no -- here we go round the poplar bush again!

That greenish stuff in the big box stores is called poplar but isn't the same species used in instrument building. And isn't the latin name of that "poplar" tulipifera something, giving rise to the name "tulip poplar"? The instrument stuff is European poplar.

OK -- just got a little unlazy and Googled it -- liriodendron tulipifera is the latin name for the green big box store American poplar. If that's what you mean by "tulip poplar", it's not what you want. The European poplar is populus nigra, black poplar, or Lombardy poplar.

A&M Wood Specialty in Ontario is a good general supplier of wood.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:44 PM
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thanks, but

Well, I've opened another can of bass worms. I was told by Bruce Harvie of Orcas Islands Tonewoods that the green stuff ( Home Depot ) was actually Magnolia and the instrument making one ( not gray or green ) was tulip. I know that Lombardy was what the Italians used, but had hoped to find a suitable American equivalent. So black poplar, eh?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:48 PM
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yellow poplar

Ok---just checked A&M. The poplar they have listed is yellow poplar. I assume that yellow poplar is not black poplar.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:58 PM
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Well, I've opened another can of bass worms. I was told by Bruce Harvie of Orcas Islands Tonewoods that the green stuff ( Home Depot ) was actually Magnolia and the instrument making one ( not gray or green ) was tulip. I know that Lombardy was what the Italians used, but had hoped to find a suitable American equivalent. So black poplar, eh?
It gets even wormier -- they're all magnolias. I have almost zero expertise in biology and plants and stuff, but if you go to Wikipedia, for example, and look at the latin names used in the classification of these plants, the root of the word "magnolia" is in there....

I wouldn't go to bat for the "black" or "Lombardy" part of the poplar thing, but the family name populus I believe is solid. Liliodendron tulipifera -- the green stuff -- is native to North America and has leaves that look like maple leafs. Very familiar to a Canadian like me! The populus stuff is related to (the same as? Help me, you foresters out there) cottonwoods and aspens. There seems to be more variety in that family and it seems to be more spread around the world.

It's wierd -- even among people with lots of wood experience the poplar thing is iffy. Different names, different ideas.... I had 25 years of woodworking experience before I realized there was a difference -- to me, poplar was always the green stuff. Once I started snooping around instrument-building I learned about the ambiguity.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:50 PM
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Attachment 86163the journeyman clam artist is barking up the right tree..tulip (yellow) poplar..is the green stuff (heartwood) and its' name is misleading..you guys already know all that stuff. this tree is the one we've all come to know and love,and should not be overlooked for instrument building..it comes in several flavors...since the tree can be so massive,large stock can be sawn from it..texture can vary widely from site to site..36" dia. tree with a heart only as big as a coffee can, (white sap wood) 1" annual rings! on the other hand..it can be all heartwood and just a rind of sapwood on the outside..depends on the site index...
so you can get big 1/4sawn flitch from sap or heart(not a real figurative type wood) loses moister fast,heavy stock is less prone to wander.good stuff.. as far as the real poplars you named quite a few and there are quite a few more including hybrids.. lombardy, i can't imagine getting a clear 1x3 out of it(very limby and they start at groundlevel).i have little experience with it but i have only found it two ways:dry and punky or very much like wet toilet paper (standing dead) i must be out of line since i'm assuming it was this the builders clamored for it in the old country

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