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Old 12-30-2008, 08:46 AM
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How does one dress a fingerboard?

Hey all. I had an earlier message about a fingerboard warping issue. Dressing the fingerboard was mentioned. I was just wondering what exactly is involved in dressing a bass fingerboard? Can I do this myself?

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Old 12-30-2008, 09:57 AM
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Here's repected luthier Arnold Schnitzer's, response to my question about fingerboard camber (a.k.a. "scoop", "relief" etc)

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Sandpaper is not a tool; it's for smoothing. The graduation work (setting of the camber, or what you call "relief") is done with a razor-sharp block plane and scrapers, then smoothed, polished and sealed. This is expert work that is done after the fingerboard has been installed and the wood has acclimated from the glue-up. If you are an expert woodworker, you may have a chance of doing it decently. if not, you will need to have it done by a competent luthier who understands double bass set-up.
Here are some links from the newbie sticky on fingerboard dressing
http://www.jeffbollbach.com/JB%20II/luthier_rant1.htm
Dressing the fingerboard
Jazz-friendly fingerboard dressing?

The lower your action (EDIT: string height) is set, the more precision and science is needed. It's already a very fine-tune process.

If you're talking about doing this on a real double bass, I'd think twice.
If you're talking about installing an ebony fingerboard in a homebrew project, like an EUB (which is what I'm doing), and you're trying to save money, your best bet is probably to try a fingerboard that is close to finished, install it, and see if you have any dead spots or buzzes, and if you have enough scoop in the FB. If you don't have issues, consider yourself lucky, and seal and polish that bad boy. Otherwise, have someone who knows what they're doing dress it.

Also, keep in mind, (if you're trying to save money), that it doesn't pay to go for a chintzy fingerboard. Uneven grain causes the FB to swell/shrink unevenly, which means that you'll be having flat spots and bumps repeatedly down the road....

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Hey all. I had an earlier message about a fingerboard warping issue. Dressing the fingerboard was mentioned. I was just wondering what exactly is involved in dressing a bass fingerboard? Can I do this myself?

Thanks

If you're going to dress your fingerboard, I'd get something to match your eyes (sorry couldn't resist).
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:55 PM
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If you're going to dress your fingerboard, I'd get something to match your eyes (sorry couldn't resist).
How can I tell if my fingerboard is a 'Summer' or an 'Autumn'?
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The lower your action is set...
String height, that is.
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String height, that is.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:30 PM
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Something about FB relief I've always been curious about; at what point on the FB of a DB is the relief at it's maximum?

Another way to look at this, if a straight edge the same length of the FB (butted up against the nut and flush with the end of the FB) is placed on the board, at what point on the FB would the largest gap be observed?

Fretted instruments have their maximum relief somewhere around the dividing line between the lower 1/3 and middle 1/3 of the scale length.
Like this==> nut |--------x--------|--------| bridge

with max relief at the "x". On a DB, is it standard or variable, based on the player / type of music?
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:20 PM
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Something about FB relief I've always been curious about; at what point on the FB of a DB is the relief at it's maximum?

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Max relief should be at the centermost point of the vibrating string length. Think more about the "swing" of each string than the board so much.

Luthiers please correct and edumacate!

(I am trying to learn how to plane fingerboards too)
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:30 AM
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The centermost point of the vibrating string length is constantly varying, unless you play open strings all the time. That's definitely not the same for fretted instruments, but that's a different forum. I would expect the max relief on a DB needs to be somewhere around the 8th, or 9th "fret" position. The relief is needed most when playing the sting nearest the nut. The string height off the FB is (usually) always increasing from nut to bridge & the relief isn't needed as much as you go up the neck. (warning; opinion here, I reserve the right to be wrong)
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:48 AM
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Since the OP doesn't list a DB in his profile, why are we here?
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:07 PM
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Since the OP doesn't list a DB in his profile, why are we here?
Maybe he's adding one and he's asking the proper questions in commencing the quest?
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