Looped method for stringing

[gack]

http://www.slavapub.net/Strings-Rabb..._the_bass.html

Is it worth trying with my recently arrived Belcantos?

My goal is as easy bowing as possible. The problem is, I`ll have to drill a ball on each string to make it bead-like.

Thanks

[MrSidecar]

I have never before seen this. Call me uninformed. But my rough guess is that the difference this makes is in the "hearing grass grow" category. Or, to put it mildly, barely audible, barely tangible.

But as I said, I just might be uninformed.

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Sidecar

[Vittu]

I do the same thing with my les paul guitar and it made the sound much brighter and it sustained notes longer, I did have to change the intonation though.

[Vittu]

i have no idea what it will do for you though

[kurt ratering]

when you tie the strings that way, you are slightly increasing the break angle of the string over the bridge which may give you more volume.

[hdiddy]

Of course it only works if your ball ends have holes in em. Drill? Fuggetaboutit. Not going to be that easy and who knows how reliable the ball ends will be with a hole in them. What if you screw up? I might try it if I had a drill press but I prob couldn't be bothered.

I can't see how they can say that pressure on the TP is lessened. There's still the same amount of force on them... if anything it just distributes it more evenly.

And no thanks.... messes up my precious string silks, esp if the strings come off/on.

[gack]

Oh my... how could I forget about The Silk!?

Actually, drilling is the most annoying thing about all that. Buying a new set is even more annoying

[JtheJazzMan]

Originally Posted by kurt ratering

when you tie the strings that way, you are slightly increasing the break angle of the string over the bridge which may give you more volume.

Interesting, the bass in that picture has a saddle extension, doesnt that widen the angle in the first place?

If I had to make a wild guess Id say that the loop at the tailpiece has a bit more flex in it compared to the regular way.

[kurt ratering]

Originally Posted by JtheJazzMan

Interesting, the bass in that picture has a saddle extension, doesnt that widen the angle in the first place?

If I had to make a wild guess Id say that the loop at the tailpiece has a bit more flex in it compared to the regular way.

good eye and good point, i didnt look at the second pic the first time around.

[Matthew Tucker]

you can get the same effect simply by threading the strings from the front of the tailpiece. no drilling needed.

[hdiddy]

Meh... thinking about it, the string will get pulled in a straight line from and considering that the TP is typically on a cable or cord, it'll just push the top of the TP away from the bass instead of into the bass. In the end, there is only a few mm (if any) difference in terms of break angle. The break angle would be increased if the TP was fixed in relation to the bass, but it isn't.

Back or front, I think it's a buncha malarkey. If there is a difference, it's because of how the string distributes the tension and not because of the break angle.

But sometimes we need to delude ourselves to sound better.

[Matthew Tucker]

Very true

But I did have success once with a tailpiece strung normally. The E wasn't doing it for me so i strung it the other way. It did make a difference to the tension and sound of that string. Later I replaced the string with a Stark E and threaded it normally.

[robobass]

Originally Posted by hdiddy

Meh... thinking about it, the string will get pulled in a straight line from and considering that the TP is typically on a cable or cord, it'll just push the top of the TP away from the bass instead of into the bass. In the end, there is only a few mm (if any) difference in terms of break angle. The break angle would be increased if the TP was fixed in relation to the bass, but it isn't.

Back or front, I think it's a buncha malarkey. If there is a difference, it's because of how the string distributes the tension and not because of the break angle.

But sometimes we need to delude ourselves to sound better.

+1. It wouldn't change the break angle or anything else, except to shorten the afterlength a bit, but you could do this by lengthening the gut. Grade A malarkey. Just like speaker cable voodoo!

Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker

Very true

But I did have success once with a tailpiece strung normally. The E wasn't doing it for me so i strung it the other way. It did make a difference to the tension and sound of that string. Later I replaced the string with a Stark E and threaded it normally.

Here you do change something, since you have the G,D, and A strung normally, you're forcing a higher break angle on the E. It wouldn't look very nice, but could have a positive effect.

[gack]

Strung the string normally today. Will try to do as Matthew said in a few days with A and E strings if the won`t become softer.