This neck thing is much easier than I thought...

[Pentabass]

At last, I found a reassuring explanation on how to glue the neck.

Here I quote the description, taken from this Ebay sale:

" Because the double bass’s volume is bigger, and the shipping cost is very expensive. if ship by sea, you will have to customs clearance , this very troubled for you. For the sake of easy, faster to ship and save the shipping cost, we have separate to ship the double bass body and the neck, It can be to resolve to bigger volume and the high postage by this means. So we can ship them by EMS which will take about 7 days to reach you house, it’s very convenient for you.

You will need to glue the neck to the bass body, but don’t worry, it is very easy to do it,we have complete ready make the size of the neck and the body, we will give you two bottle of glue, please to mix the two glues and agitate even, and then to daub them on the bottom of neck and the body’s internal groove as even, but note don’t put too more glue, but it’s better uniformity, and then put the neck on the body’s groove, The end, use the clamping apparatus (we will give you ) to clamp the neck and the body (Please see the picture, the two backing board have cork paper to safeguard the instrument ). The temperature must be over 15 degree Celsius and clamp them 60 hours, The neck and the body will be good glued. "

[Jake deVilliers]

There you have it - its a piece of cake really..........

[robobass]

Uh - Are they talking about epoxy?

[kurt ratering]

i wonder if they give you a bridge with the arch cut and all you have to do is fit the feet till the action is right. a bass kit more really.

[draftsmann]

I bought an unfinished body and part-fitted neck from the same seller. They are now united -with hide glue I hasten to add!

I must admit when I saw this eBay listing it left me wondering whether the maker uses hide glue or epoxy generally...

Aside from that question, I was impressed with the quality of construction and materials - as was the repairer who glued my neck and body.

Adrian

[draftsmann]

Originally Posted by kurt ratering

i wonder if they give you a bridge with the arch cut and all you have to do is fit the feet till the action is right. a bass kit more really.

Having dealt with this seller - yes, they will sell a "bass kit" if you want, because that is what I bought - a body, partially fitted neck and fingerboard and unfitted soundpost. I had to source machine heads, tailpiece, bridge, nut, assemble and varnish it.

Due to travel and work commitments the project has been ongoing for several months; but it is almost complete now, requiring just soundpost fitting and final setup.

The listing in the link on this thread looks far less a kit than what I bought!

I have sent them an email asking what sort of glue they use. I'd hope they use hide glue in their workshop. I'll report back when I have their reply.

Adrian

[arnoldschnitzer]

Have necking many bass, decision carefully glue choice. Also, critical alignment hasten to clamp and decide overstand and play height. Before mix glue, install on hands vinyl gloves for avoid stickiness. When cured checking alignment, and if not right, cut off neck from body with chainsaw due to effectiveness epoxy bond.

[draftsmann]

Now try writing that in Mandarin Chinese...

[1st Bass]

I've had Mandarin chicken, is that similar?

[bassphase]

Originally Posted by arnoldschnitzer

Have necking many bass, decision carefully glue choice. Also, critical alignment hasten to clamp and decide overstand and play height. Before mix glue, install on hands vinyl gloves for avoid stickiness. When cured checking alignment, and if not right, cut off neck from body with chainsaw due to effectiveness epoxy bond.

Sounds like an old Roland manual.



bob

[MT Spaces]

Originally Posted by arnoldschnitzer

Have necking many bass, decision carefully glue choice ....

Assing my laugh off, am I ! How come Master Arnold has started talking like Yoda? The Force .... Imbued with it this bass must be.

[salcott]

My bone of humor has been muchly activated when Arnold's reply is reading to me.

[Nagrom]

You satisfaction our guarantee or cheerful no money back

[draftsmann]

It's good to see so many keen supporters of the Queen's English on the colonial side of the pond

Seriously, I've just received the following reply from the seller:

Dear draftsmann
No, the glue we used isn't the animal/hide glue. It is the Chemical glue we used on the violin, this kind of glue is very substantial and it very Convenience of use.
please to mix the two glues and agitate even, and then to daub them on the bottom of neck and the body?s internal groove as even, but note don?t put the glue too more, it's better to daub symmetrical, and then put the neck on the body?s groove, The end, Use the clamping apparatus to clamp the neck and the body till 60 hours, you can look at the pictures in our ebay store.
Thanks

Now, he seems to refer not only to the neck joint but also to what is used to assemble the body - although it still isn't entirely clear. I'll seek further clarification.

I have a vested interest as I have already one of their basses, with hybrid body construction, into which I've invested considerable money, time and effort. If epoxy was used for the general construction, am I right in thinking that should the top ever need to come off, it will (to use the technical term) be a bugger of a job?

Ho hum.

Adrian

[MT Spaces]

My heart contains most Sad ... Smallness Chinese Epoxies in numbers of large .... Rare being furry with cute attached alive ago not of long time past dwelling forest of rains in .... Fear speaks loud screams sad at poachers no care ..... Glue of hides tiny fuzzy made .... Dead Now .... Bass forever stuck .

[RobertUI]

Laugh out Loud I did. Certain I am that that this is of great humor.







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[fretlessspence]

Originally Posted by bassphase

Sounds like an old Roland manual.



bob

I had an old one that, at the end said "Now you have much musical excellence!"

[fdeck]

Originally Posted by draftsmann

It's good to see so many keen supporters of the Queen's English on the colonial side of the pond

Seriously, I've just received the following reply from the seller:

Now, he seems to refer not only to the neck joint but also to what is used to assemble the body - although it still isn't entirely clear. I'll seek further clarification.

I have a vested interest as I have already one of their basses, with hybrid body construction, into which I've invested considerable money, time and effort. If epoxy was used for the general construction, am I right in thinking that should the top ever need to come off, it will (to use the technical term) be a bugger of a job?

Ho hum.

Adrian

An experiment: Find where some glue has oozed out of a joint, like inside the front plate near one of the FF's. Pick off a small blob and put it in water. Epoxy won't soften.

[Phil Rowan]

This is the thread I have a serious conversation is a good bass. Arnold, we also hysterically my words, the seller did not realize!

[draftsmann]

Originally Posted by fdeck

An experiment: Find where some glue has oozed out of a joint, like inside the front plate near one of the FF's. Pick off a small blob and put it in water. Epoxy won't soften.

Thank you - what a top suggestion! Like every red-blooded adult male, I always wanted to be a gynaecologist .

I do recall from a torchlit internal examination remarking how neat and clean the construction was, but there has to be a stray blob somewhere in there, even if I have to resort to creative use of a soundpost setter to reach it.

If it transpires to be epoxy I'll be jumping on the "let's rip the you know what out of the Chinaman's grasp of Engrish" bandwagon, make no mistake.

Thanks again