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Old 11-02-2006, 11:12 AM
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Lightbulb New Jersey Rant

New Jersey is the most densely populated stae in the USA. So inorder to find a bass shop we have to go to NY or CT or PA.

Attention Bass shops looking to grow or expand:

Look at Middlesex or Somerset county, NJ easy access to the Turnpike, Parkway, I-287.

Shop owners please note this.

Readers note: If you think this is an invation to tell a New Jersey joke, please deliver it from the fast lane of the truck division of the New Jersey Turnpike durring rush hour. Thank You.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:42 AM
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New Jersey is the most densely populated stae in the USA. So inorder to find a bass shop we have to go to NY or CT or PA.

Attention Bass shops looking to grow or expand:

Look at Middlesex or Somerset county, NJ easy access to the Turnpike, Parkway, I-287.

Shop owners please note this.

Readers note: If you think this is an invation to tell a New Jersey joke, please deliver it from the fast lane of the truck division of the New Jersey Turnpike durring rush hour. Thank You.

Seems like you already told one.
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:10 PM
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+100.

The less I have to drive into NYC the better.


Dig: recently I had a gig at a restaraunt in Fort Tryon Park NY, which is 2 minutes from the GWB. I live 5 minutes from the GWB in NJ. Total travel time to gig should be: 7 minutes. On a Friday night I'd have to leave 2 hours early to get there on time.

They need to build like 3 more bridges and 2 more tunnels between NY and NJ.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:02 PM
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I don't want another bridge or Tunnel. I want a bass shop. It is a common industry standard to charge customers portal to portal. In english that means billing the customer for travel time. In our industry good luck with that.

In the meanwhile, I still want a Bass shop.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:50 AM
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Attention Jersey residents, come to a Pa shop where you can breathe fresh air. With the price of car insurance and taxes, I can't imagine anyone wanting to set up shop in Jersey, the 'Chemical Capitol'. Just an FWI and traffic is not as bad over here either.
Now Ken, W/ taxes and insurance I can't argue, but don't start w/ the 'Chemical Capitol' stuff. It's not the Garden State for nothing. You know better than to judge Jersey from what you see on the NJ Trnpk.

But Dad Bass is right. We DO need a good bass luthier btwn N. Jersey & Phily. Bob Riccardi in S. Jersey supposed to be good, but there is a big void to fill btwn there & NYC.
Those student general string shops just don't make it. I'm lucky to be within striking distance of Arnold S. in Brewster

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Old 11-03-2006, 05:24 AM
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What's it cost to cross the GW these days? Man, I'm so glad I got the heck out of there! Now I do 80% of my commuting by bike. And, my orchestra's rehearsal hall is like 150 meters from my house! Sorry to gloat. To bad Al Gore didn't get to be president.
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:57 AM
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What's it cost to cross the GW these days? Man, I'm so glad I got the heck out of there! Now I do 80% of my commuting by bike. And, my orchestra's rehearsal hall is like 150 meters from my house! Sorry to gloat. To bad Al Gore didn't get to be president.
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yeah, 2 of his main campaign platofrms were lowering tolls on the gwb and getting a decent luthier in jersey. he also promised to locate all bass players closer to thier gigs. glad you found a country that is so progressive.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:45 AM
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Notes:

To all: I'm trying to gather support for a good bass shop in central New Jersey. The price of the GWB toll is off point.

To Ken Smith: You've suggested where I should live. Do you have any advice for my diet?
The plan fact is, Ken, youre an independent business owner and I am just a working man. I am certain that just the differences in our schedules and life styles allow you to travel to various bass shops at your discression.

Ken youre intitled to have your life style. You worked hard to get there. God bless you. Please understand my point that there are plain differences.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:55 AM
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I'm currently in Bedminster, NJ...Somerset County. Been here for three years...been to NYC three times. Def not the place for me, esp having lived in PA - the Reading and Allentown areas. I'm trying to move back to PA...maybe in the spring. Anyway, I support a good bass shop anywhere, anytime...esp in central NJ.
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Old 11-03-2006, 07:58 AM
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Dad Bass:

LOL. What do you expect the 8 or 9 TBer's here that live in NJ to do? Start a petition for Kolstein or Gage to move to NJ? I think my dream of more bridges and tunnels is more realistic than that....
Besides, if traffic time (which is what I'm complaining about) is not an issue for you then what's the problem? Like Ken was trying to say, there are at least 2 or 3 in Manhattan, 2 in Westchester, and 1 in L.I. Plus 1 in South Jersey.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:38 AM
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Ken, I'll wave back. We can do that to express what we have in common both players of a instrument that few understand or appreciate.

Be careful driving.

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Old 11-03-2006, 08:46 AM
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Which DeLuccia is this? I ask because one Gennaro DeLuccia (4th-5th generation) did the setup on my bass back around 1974.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:46 AM
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Not sure. Just that he had one of the Bows and one of his Basses was repaired by Vincenzo? DeLuccia? Is that the name? He talked highly of him and I wasn't sure how many in the family there were.
Gennaro DeLuccia had a shop in Miami, Florida for some time. Every so often, the Miami Herald would do a human-interest piece on him and how violinists from all over the world would flock to his shop. He was the 4th or 5th generation of a family of Italian instrument-makers. In 1974, I was playing in the Miami Beach Symphony. My Italian teacher, who spoke broken English, took me and my bass to see his friend, DeLuccia, to have him do a complete setup. The bass I had was a Kay C-1! It was all my parents could afford.

Well, we walked into the shop and DeLuccia and my teacher spoke. I didn't need to understand Italian (no English was ever spoken) to know that DeLuccia was less-than-pleased to work on what he perceived as a cheap American excuse for a bass. Seeing the shop itself was like walking into a time-warp. There was a supply of quite aged tools and templates. DeLuccia was pretty aged himself.

When we picked up the bass, DeLuccia had replaned the fingerboard, modified the nut, carved a new bridge (which was married to the top seemingly by some sort of magic), and reset the sound post. Total cost: ~$50.00! This ridiculous price was, of course, a favor to my teacher.

That's my Deluccia story and why I figure I had one of the best set-up Kays in history.
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:05 AM
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LOL. What do you expect the 8 or 9 TBer's here that live in NJ to do? Start a petition for Kolstein or Gage to move to NJ? I think my dream of more bridges and tunnels is more realistic than that....
Besides, if traffic time (which is what I'm complaining about) is not an issue for you then what's the problem? Like Ken was trying to say, there are at least 2 or 3 in Manhattan, 2 in Westchester, and 1 in L.I. Plus 1 in South Jersey.
there are more than 8 or 9 bass players in jersey. some of the heaviest players in the world live here. there are no decent shops in jersey, not even south jersey. i'm driving to jeff's tomorrow, but it took a whole year for me to be able to find time for it in my schedule. closer would be better... gage is closer than jeff, but i have no idea who is working on my bass at gage. gage is not so bad since he's just outside of the tunnel, but i really want to be the one in charge of who works on my bass, not whoever's bench is free in the shop at that time...if that's not how it works there then i apologize and please enlighten me.
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:10 AM
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Really? There are more than 8 or 9 bassists in NJ? LOL. No kidding. I meant 8 or 9 on the Talk Bass Double Bass forum.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:41 PM
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yeah, 2 of his main campaign platofrms were lowering tolls on the gwb and getting a decent luthier in jersey. he also promised to locate all bass players closer to thier gigs. glad you found a country that is so progressive.
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:12 AM
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"yeah, 2 of his main campaign platofrms were lowering tolls on the gwb and getting a decent luthier in jersey. he also promised to locate all bass players closer to thier gigs."

I do think I remember something about relocating Luthiers. Ha Ha! Good one. What I was getting at was that transportation in Eastern Jersey and the Northeast in general is near impossible already, and it keeps getting worse. Sort of like Iraq. Without some pretty radical changes, the economy is going to grind to a standstill. I don't forsee any of these changes coming from the Christian Right.

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Old 11-04-2006, 08:55 AM
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What I was getting at was that transportation in Eastern Jersey and the Northeast in general is near impossible already, and it keeps getting worse. Sort of like Iraq.
I would agree with that, although while I know you're being sarcastic, I would hardly make a joke comparing traffic to the absolute nightmare that is the war in Iraq......but then, we're not supposed to be political on this forum for some reason, therefore I will say no more.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:34 AM
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fyi, it's definately worth it to make the drive to jeff bollbach's. just had some really great work done by him. leave early enough on a saturday and you should be able to get there with little problem. last time i left just alittle later and the traffic was murder. a few hours made a big difference.
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