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Old 06-05-2010, 09:04 PM
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New Sound Post Question

So my old sound post droped and I took it to my luthier and he said my bass had shifted enough that it was now too short.
He installed an new one that is a lot tighter. I get a lot more volume and umph from my bass now, but now that I have played it for a day or two I feel like it sounds really "over resonate" and "ringy" I get a lot of sypathetic ring when I don't mute the strings with my hands. I like a really dark focused tone and although it seems to have more guts in the sound now I feel like I lost a bit of focus and punch, which was the reason I love this bass.

My question is will ringyness dissapate after the sound post has some break in time or do I need to visit the lutheir again and have hime make ajustments? What needs to happen just move the sound post, cut is shorter, any sugestions?
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:46 PM
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Who did you take it to? I doubt it will change much.
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Old 06-06-2010, 07:15 AM
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Perhaps your post just needs to be a bit short so that it sits closer to the f-hole. It's all about what the customer wants. I'm sure if you took it back to the luthier that did the work, they will accommodate you there. The only thing I would warn against is putting in a short post under string tension so that the top sinks down onto the post. This might have been the initial problem and would be potentially damaging to the top if it were configured that way over a long period of time.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:11 AM
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May be time to try some darker, less sustaining strings.
Jeeze, I hate saying that.
My best to your wallet and you......
You got some bassist friends that may have some different kinds of used strings you could just try on to save that nightmare?
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:22 AM
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Your best bet is probably to take it back to the Luthier and fiddle with the soundpost length/placement. He/She wants you to be a happy customer. Address your concerns about your tone, and they will know what to do.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:36 AM
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What kind of bass is it? Carved, laminated, or hybrid?
I see a 1994 Romano Solano. I see a carved DB....I don't know why I see stuff. It's like a curse.....

EDIT: I SEE that you've deleted your post....I SEE things.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:46 AM
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I see a 1994 Romano Solano. I see a carved DB....I don't know why I see stuff. It's like a curse.....

EDIT: I SEE that you've deleted your post....I SEE things.
I was taking the easy way out

I resubmit the question - what kind of bass is it?
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:57 AM
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I see a 1994 Romano Solano. I see a carved DB...
Plywood bass' soundposts are usually 'self - tightening' - eliminating the need for replacement.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:57 AM
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I see an inability of someone to check a posters Profile for information on their gear. also, I see that someone didn't get the information I so freely supplied to him/her in my prior post.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:59 AM
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Plywood bass' soundposts are usually 'self - tightening' - eliminating the need for replacement.
I see that someone is very, uh.......
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I see an inability of someone to check a posters Profile for information on their gear. also, I see that someone didn't get the information I so freely supplied to him/her in my prior post.
ARGH.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:31 AM
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Plywood bass' soundposts are usually 'self - tightening' - eliminating the need for replacement.
Hey BIG, please explain how this works...
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Old 06-06-2010, 01:43 PM
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They are self tightening in the same sense that pants are. If you eat enough, your pants will tighten themselves.
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Old 06-06-2010, 02:17 PM
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They are self tightening in the same sense that pants are. If you eat enough, your pants will tighten themselves.
So I could put any old sound post in a plywood bass and PLAY it to fit? Damn, I've been wasting a lot of time fitting the things...
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Old 06-06-2010, 02:58 PM
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So I could put any old sound post in a plywood bass and PLAY it to fit? Damn, I've been wasting a lot of time fitting the things...
I was being sarcastic, but forgot the symbol. A plywood bass can warp itself to fit a soundpost, but of course I would not recommend doing it that way. I bought a cheap cello for my son, and the soundpost was crammed in there tight enough that it warped the top.
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:20 PM
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Hey, thanks guys....
I will take it back and try some new placements etc....
Gotten get back to the darkness.....
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Hey BIG, please explain how this works...
For crying out loud.
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:56 PM
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They are self tightening in the same sense that pants are. If you eat enough, your pants will tighten themselves.
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Old 06-06-2010, 05:33 PM
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When I detune and retune my strings they get back zing. I think be patient and leave it for a few weeks, if you want let the luthier know what the deal is as well and you may call back after a few weeks
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Old 06-06-2010, 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I think I will let it sit for a few weeks...I have been bowing it a lot just to try to get it to loosen up a bit.
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