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Old 08-03-2009, 04:46 PM
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Repair of Crack in Newer Double Bass - My Rant

I have a chinese bass I bought less than two years ago. It was not used that much and is not my primary bass. But, after a year or so, it developed a crack in the lower bout about 4" long. To gauge the area, I can roughly say the quiver covers where the crack is. Was given info it is not a saddle crack.

I had it temporarily glued, but now I want it fixed. So, the latest estimate is $480.00 which involves loosening the seams and putting cleats in. Eight hours of work. I am hoping this is a reasonable price. If not, I sure would like someone to clue me in and I going to call around anyway.

I would like to know (the rant part of this) why a brand new bass is so bad off that I already have to pay for this kind of repair? Is this the deal on a new bass... buy at your own risk and if it starts to fall apart you are just out of luck. Nothing like bass warranties I guess? Or, should there be? If and when I ever sell it, the crack will have to be taken into consideration too at my loss.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:30 PM
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You live in a dry climate. China is mostly humid. Your bass got dry and cracked. It happens.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:23 PM
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I was TOTALLY going to buy a Panormo, but when I saw those cracks I said TOTALLY no way!
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:24 PM
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Or, alternately -
I see the wood in Chinese basses isn't the only thing green around here....
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:58 AM
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"I had it temporarily glued, but now I want it fixed. So, the latest estimate is $480.00 which involves loosening the seams and putting cleats in. Eight hours of work. I am hoping this is a reasonable price. If not, I sure would like someone to clue me in and I going to call around anyway. " - as posted by o.p.

so your guys gonna open the seam and slide some unfitted cleats through? i would be concerened with the longevity of the repair. as far as a reasonable price, $60 an hour seams like a low rate at least for shops here on the east coast.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:26 AM
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i have had success repairing cracks by using a long auger drill bit (6mm), and gluing 6mm dowels into the holes. drill the holes across the grain, dip a long screwdriver in glue and poke it down the holes to coat the inside, dip the cut to length dowels in glue, then drive them right into the holes. tried it with scrap piece of wood first. tried to split the wood using a hammer and chisel. that sucker just wouldnt split at all. if you push the dowel in a bit further into the hole, you can use filler to hide where the hole was, and its pretty much invisible. ive used this method on badly split neck pockets too, and its works well.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:57 AM
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This is a joke, right?
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:01 AM
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he's a stray, loose from the BG forums, methinks...
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:02 AM
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Kurt and Arnold,

Thanks for some helpful info here. At least it sounds like the price is about right. I am not overly concerned about longevity as I plan to consign this soon.

As far as dry climates, I do live close to the Beach in SoCal and have never had crack problems with other basses. However, I recently bought a humidifier, and anytime the humidity level gets below 50 percent, I use it.

Yeah, I was wondering too if I posted on the BG side by mistake or if this was such a stupid question it deserved no respect. Did not come across as a joke to me and I even asked a mod to close this thread going downhill fast thread.

But, thanks, guys, I have received some good info and you saved this thread. Sounds like the luthier's idea is OK, maybe not the best, but will get the job done.

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i have had success repairing cracks by using a long auger drill bit (6mm), and gluing 6mm dowels into the holes. drill the holes across the grain, dip a long screwdriver in glue and poke it down the holes to coat the inside, dip the cut to length dowels in glue, then drive them right into the holes. tried it with scrap piece of wood first. tried to split the wood using a hammer and chisel. that sucker just wouldnt split at all. if you push the dowel in a bit further into the hole, you can use filler to hide where the hole was, and its pretty much invisible. ive used this method on badly split neck pockets too, and its works well.
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Duh...I had to urban dictionary that. Do Not Feed The Troll.

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Duh...I had to urban dictionary that. Do Not Feed The Troll.

Duh. Ok. I get it.
I came up with "Do Not Frickin Try This", which I think works better in this instance.
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i have had success repairing cracks by using a long auger drill bit (6mm), and gluing 6mm dowels into the holes. drill the holes across the grain, dip a long screwdriver in glue and poke it down the holes to coat the inside, dip the cut to length dowels in glue, then drive them right into the holes. tried it with scrap piece of wood first. tried to split the wood using a hammer and chisel. that sucker just wouldnt split at all. if you push the dowel in a bit further into the hole, you can use filler to hide where the hole was, and its pretty much invisible. ive used this method on badly split neck pockets too, and its works well.
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I came up with "Do Not Frickin Try This", which I think works better in this instance.
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That's what I came up with too...
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:15 PM
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I came up with "Do Not Frickin Try This", which I think works better in this instance.
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ROTFLMAO
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???
Ripe
Orotund
Tomatoes
Flung
Largely to
Mash
Against
Onanists
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if i had kids i may have known that, it took a call to my 14 year old niece to figure it out!
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:40 PM
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I tend to look at'em as Rorschachs...
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Tomatos? Onanists? I guess a tomato, largely flung, and therein mashed could be seen as a Rorshach test...never seen it done that way.
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