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Old 03-26-2007, 08:16 PM
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scope of repair

A corner of my Solano Klotz was knocked off and I cannot find it. As you can see in the photos, there have been repairs in the area before. I am covered via Music Pro Insurance, but am not sure this is worth the claim. There is a $100 deductible, but this will cover a rental and transportation if I don't get it done locally.

I know the guys in FL, but don't know their work that well. Is this something a local guy can do and is it worth the claim and risk of increased premiums?

I know, I know...no one can really tell till the bass is in their hands. I just want some informed opinions.



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Old 03-26-2007, 08:49 PM
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Old repair?

Did the broken corner piece follow the line of an old crack repair? I can't see what's going on with this top. Is it laminated? (I need new reading glasses.)
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:59 PM
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In a perfect world to make this corner one hundred percent I would take the top off double behind the damage and further into the edge work and inlay a piece on top of the doubling bringing the corner back.

http://www.stringrepair.com/images/d...Hunter_085.JPG

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Old 03-27-2007, 06:27 AM
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Steve -

It's a carved top. There are more pictures in my flickr page. Click either picture to go to the rest.

Gary -

I have checked those pictures out more than once in the past. I'm hoping I can get away without doing this. The top was of just last August and I'd rather not spend that much time without my bass again.

Yours was one of the shops I had planned on contacting. Could you PM me some thoughts on getting the bass to you and a ballpark for cost?
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:35 AM
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Not trying to lose Gary a job here but shipping a bass a thousand+ miles for a tiny knocked off corner is just nuts. The work depicted by Gary is fine and would be proper with the top off for other reasons. But you don't operate on a patient when they have a hangnail. This repair can be done with the top on and for not that much money.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:28 PM
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Right jeff But really, it looks like that other repair is related as it shoots right at the corner and is suspect to egging on the current issue. I would want to double all through that section.

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Old 03-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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wild grain

Matthew,

That is one wild looking top in the center section!
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:32 PM
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It looks like that is a slab cut top, right?

Is it fir, or spruce?

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Old 04-03-2007, 11:40 AM
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flint - it's a slab cut pine top.

I can now see the seam/crack above the chipped section is openening and the whole area is unstable.

Now I am looking at sending this thing off somewhere. I've already set up a MusicPro claim. So now I need advice on where to send this. As is often the case, I'm very busy with grad work (jazz and orchestral concerts) and getting need this done quickly. I would also like to secure a good rental.

I know Upton will deal with hauling issues. I cannot travel with it out of state right now because I simply don't have the time. Advice, please.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:51 AM
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I should also ask:

I am experienced with tacking seams closed and have in the past used fresh hide glue (th real thing) to fill in some goofy gaps as a stop-gap. If it's a month or more before I start getting work done, should I do a stop-gap tacking on this?
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:54 AM
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I can now see the seam/crack above the chipped section is openening and the whole area is unstable.
Now I feel vindicated in my original thought of doubling.....not that I needed it
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:10 AM
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Well, it's even worse now. The bottom 2" of the upper bout in question: the table has separated at the joint as well as from the ribs. It's very fragile and I've lost a lot of sound. I can't get the work done until next month.

I'll ask again, will it be OK to tack it with hide glue until I can get it into a shop?
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:16 AM
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My advice; GET ANY TENSION OFF THE BASS=strings and tp off, bridge off, knock the post down with a ruler....obivoulsy you wont be able to play.

If I were repairing the bass I would prefer not to deal with any more than has already been done. So that's a no on the hide glue.
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:59 PM
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ugh.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:12 PM
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Sounds like a tough situation man, better find a rental fast or do you have any friends with basses that you could borrow at least for your obligations (gigs, rehearsals etc)
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Old 04-08-2007, 06:17 PM
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I have a University of South Florida Juzek on which to play. Problem now is a bent endpin right away.
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:32 PM
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I'm worried

hi, i was looking for some recomendations about rumano solano, and i found this topic and here is why I'm worried.

In the next month i will recive my new bass from him, the thing is that I'm worried about to have any problem with my bass and see that he will not take care of it, as i talked with him about this he told me that any question, problem, crack, or anything related to the instrument he will take care of it as soon as possible he can, and depending of the damage he will do it at his expenses. BUT I DON'T KNOW

Matthew

I mentioned this thing to rumano and he ask me to let you know that if you couldn't fix that just call him at his cellphone 443 8678516 anytime including night and he will take care of your bass, even if you can't send it, he's going to houston,TX by Florida to deliver some instrumets as he told me and he can help you out with any cost.
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:47 AM
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Rumano's been great about taking care of things when I ask him to, but sometimes our schedules don't line up. The bass is currently on Gary's table at Upton with her top off . Once Gary and I started talking, things were able to move very quickly and I Actually had to do some waiting on insurance to make sure we could move ahead. He might even be done (or pretty near, at least) before I get the insurance check.

Last Thursday, I met a very large Kolstein trunk at FedEx Freight and loaded my baby in for a return trip to Mystic, CT. Can't wait to have her back.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:34 AM
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When my Solano cracked, he was very cooporative with me about getting my bass up to his shop so he could fix it. He really stands behind his work.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:00 PM
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Excelent, ok everything seems to be ok with him, that's nice to know.

As a personal opinion of solano owners what do you guys think about the quality of the materaials he works with??

thanks again
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