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02-11-2010, 10:46 AM
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Does this look like a decent soundpost fit? I know it's hard to judge from just a picture. On the bottom, I tested it by trying to slide a piece of paper under the post from all directions, but I can't do that easily on the top. All I can tell is that the black line, which appears to be just a shadow due to slightly chamfered edge, is the same all around.
By the way, I went through about 6 sound posts before being happy with the fit and position.
George 
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02-11-2010, 12:14 PM
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Luthier, Dallas Strings | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas | | | Those chamfered edges always play tricks on me too! I have to eyeball it several times before deciding if it's fit right or not. It looks good to me.. |
02-11-2010, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DallasStrings  Those chamfered edges always play tricks on me too! I have to eyeball it several times before deciding if it's fit right or not. It looks good to me.. | Cool. As long as I don't hear "it sucks" from a luthier, that's good enough for me.
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02-12-2010, 01:12 AM
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You can tell a lot about the fit by how it feels when you try to rotate the post. When its not in full contact the post will spin around the high point, when its all touching it feels really solid. |
02-12-2010, 10:12 AM
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02-12-2010, 11:09 AM
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I wouldn't touch that line with a ten foot pole.
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02-12-2010, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by james condino If only you could get your hand in there, everything would be different....
j. | James, you are proud of that access door, ain't you? And you should be.  |
02-12-2010, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton I wouldn't touch that line with a ten foot pole. | No Kidding! "That's not my ring, that's my watch!"  |
02-13-2010, 12:01 AM
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Ouch! 
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02-16-2010, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton ...with a ten foot pole. | I think that ship has just sailed  |
02-16-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by james condino If only you could get your hand in there, everything would be different....
j. | Yeah, if only there was a way to do that. |
02-16-2010, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake deVilliers Looks good to me George.
You can tell a lot about the fit by how it feels when you try to rotate the post. When its not in full contact the post will spin around the high point, when its all touching it feels really solid. | It kinda snapped into place, so I think it's fine.
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02-16-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by George700DL It kinda snapped into place, so I think it's fine. | Your turn, Jake.
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02-16-2010, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by M Ramsey James, you are proud of that access door, ain't you? And you should be. | Who said was talking about an access door?
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02-16-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Warburton Your turn, Jake. | popped? |
02-16-2010, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by George700DL Yeah, if only there was a way to do that. | 
I 'm not so much proud of that aspect on my bass as I'm more completely blown away by it. I originally thought it would be something I'd use occasionally. The reality is more like I use it every week, and almost every time I play a new room or gig I get in there and muck around with the soundpost. The soundpost fit I'm able to get is incomparable to what I can get going through the F holes. Now, whenever I work on another bass (daily) wthout it, I feel like I'm going in through the glove box or fresh air vent to work on the engine or building a ship in a bottle. I can't ever see building another bass without it. The only issue with it is that almost every one who sees it in action wants me to cut a hole in their bass and gets a little miffed when I tell them no.
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02-16-2010, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by james condino
I 'm not so much proud of that aspect on my bass as I'm more completely blown away by it. I originally thought it would be something I'd use occasionally. The reality is more like I use it every week, and almost every time I play a new room or gig I get in there and muck around with the soundpost. The soundpost fit I'm able to get is incomparable to what I can get going through the F holes. Now, whenever I work on another bass (daily) wthout it, I feel like I'm going in through the glove box or fresh air vent to work on the engine or building a ship in a bottle. I can't ever see building another bass without it. The only issue with it is that almost every one who sees it in action wants me to cut a hole in their bass and gets a little miffed when I tell them no.
j. | Why do you tell them "no"?
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02-16-2010, 05:25 PM
| | proprietor, Condino's String Shop | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asheville, nc | | | Doing that on a new bass build under my own name, is useful to me and some folks would call it progressive and an interesting feature. Doing it to an existing bass built by someone else, one could easily get labeled as the "bass butcher", or other such labels by some of the more crusty folks around, and I'd probably frown on it myself if it was a mdification of an original part on a nice carved bass.
Plys and such are generaly working basses and have more leeway. Now, if someone asked me to remove the original C bout, clone a new one in the same style and level of workmanship as the original, and then preserve the original so that everything could be reversed, I'd be ok with that. That approach falls into that nefarious workng range like when the fingerboard is taken off an original Lloyd Loar mandolin and replaced with a modern one or period necks are removed and replaced with new ones. For me, the main issues are respect for the orgnal makers intentions and to do it in a method that is basically invisible and can be reversed.
We are sidetracking the orignal thread. The fit looks good to me from here. I've got a new soundpost setting tool design that I have been using for about a year. 'Works great and offers a solid solution. As soon as I find the right job shop to start producing them in quantity for me later this year, I'd like to offer up a couple dozen to folks around here for testing and review. Beat 'em, break 'em, and generally use the $#@! out of them so that the end result is all of us have a better mouse trap without cutting a trap door. I'll keep everyone posted.
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02-16-2010, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by james condino I'll keep everyone posted. | Well, isn't that the idea?!
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02-17-2010, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by james condino Doing that on a new bass build under my own name, is useful to me and some folks would call it progressive and an interesting feature. Doing it to an existing bass built by someone else, one could easily get labeled as the "bass butcher", or other such labels by some of the more crusty folks around, and I'd probably frown on it myself if it was a mdification of an original part on a nice carved bass.
Plys and such are generaly working basses and have more leeway. Now, if someone asked me to remove the original C bout, clone a new one in the same style and level of workmanship as the original, and then preserve the original so that everything could be reversed, I'd be ok with that. That approach falls into that nefarious workng range like when the fingerboard is taken off an original Lloyd Loar mandolin and replaced with a modern one or period necks are removed and replaced with new ones. For me, the main issues are respect for the orgnal makers intentions and to do it in a method that is basically invisible and can be reversed.
We are sidetracking the orignal thread. The fit looks good to me from here. I've got a new soundpost setting tool design that I have been using for about a year. 'Works great and offers a solid solution. As soon as I find the right job shop to start producing them in quantity for me later this year, I'd like to offer up a couple dozen to folks around here for testing and review. Beat 'em, break 'em, and generally use the $#@! out of them so that the end result is all of us have a better mouse trap without cutting a trap door. I'll keep everyone posted.
j. | Very cool James, both on the port and the soundpost setting tool idea - I'd love to hear about it.
With that port, you could probably even shave some wood off the top if it's too thick You could even get a thickness gauge inside it.
My top will probably be coming off at some point so that I can thin it down a bit - I think it could be louder. But for now, I'm just going to play it as much as possible.
For setting the soundpost, right now I use the standard tool, a flexible grabber thing from auto parts store, and a string tied to the post toward the top. I first stand the post up using the grabber and the string (rather than stabbing the post with the sharp end of the setter).
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