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Old 03-17-2008, 04:42 PM
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Question string height - buzz

Hey everybody! I just got a new bass a while ago, and the shop I got it from lowered the action for me. It's a LOT easier to play now, only problem is that they lowered the height on the G string WAY more than the other strings. (I'll upload a photo later) There isn't any problem when I'm playing soft, but when I play even a little harder with my right hand(I prefer the tone and feel) I get this horrible buzz on the area between C and C# on the G. I don't really want to spend money for a new bridge, I'm just a student and don't have any disposable income - any suggestions?

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Old 03-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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Sounds like you may have a high spot on the fingerboard. I would suggest you take it to a good bass luthier and have them check it out. If it is minor, it may not cost much to fix. If it is a bigger problem and the entire board needs to be planed, it could be a more sizable expense.
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I've already checked - the fingerboard looks really good, near perfect. I think the problem might just be the lower action on the G compared to the other strings. Know of any ways to fix without spending a lot?
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:16 PM
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Take it back to the shop and show them the problem. Let them take care of it.

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I've already checked - the fingerboard looks really good, near perfect. I think the problem might just be the lower action on the G compared to the other strings. Know of any ways to fix without spending a lot?
When you say perfect, do you mean perfectly flat? The fingerboard is supposed to be cambered (scooped).
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I know, I mean it's got the right shape, bit of a scoop in it. I've called the shop, they said that I can have as many adjustments as I want on it.
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I've already checked - the fingerboard looks really good, near perfect.
What tools have you used for checking? Just by looking at the fingerboard, I can't tell if it the setup is good or if it needs some dressing work.
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Sight down the FB from the scroll end. You should see some dip, but no high or low spots. It should be a very gentle curve from the nut to the other end. If you see ANY bumps take it back.
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I've already had a luthier from another store check it out - it's good neck-wise. String height just too low. So, what can I do about that? They carved the bridge too low, and I don't know if they can fix it.
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Doesn't your bridge have adjusters on it?
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And if it doesn't, installing them would fix your problem.

Again, take it back to the original repairman.

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How low is too low? If you are looking for the cheap fix, and it's not a whole lot difference between too low and just right, you could shim under the string at the bridge with parchment. (banjo skin) Cut some small circles, fold over bridge under the string, drop of glue. you're set. lube with graphite where string contacts.
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How low is too low? If you are looking for the cheap fix, and it's not a whole lot difference between too low and just right, you could shim under the string at the bridge with parchment. (banjo skin) Cut some small circles, fold over bridge under the string, drop of glue. you're set. lube with graphite where string contacts.
I think I'm going to see about adjusters - if the price is really good, I'll give it a try - if not and I have to save up, I'm gonna try the shims. Thanks!

Almost forgot:
Any other suggestions? I've been playing DB for almost a year now, mostly jazz, and although I've got a lot of experience playing a bass, I'm still pretty new to owning one. Until now, it's just been the school's horrible old bass, which requires almost no care, since I could probably drop it off a roof and it'd be fine.
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I think I should mention that my strings are really low-tension, really loose. Would putting some higher-tension strings on help with the buzzing? I'm used to high string tension from my school's bass, so that's not a problem for me.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:36 PM
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I think I should mention that my strings are really low-tension, really loose. Would putting some higher-tension strings on help with the buzzing?
In my experience, the answer is "yes". It's not that higher tension strings can't buzz, but they do tend to do it less than floppy ones. YMMV, YMVCB, etc.
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I like the last one. Actually, though, I meant to write, "YMWCB". Sorry!
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In my experience, the answer is "yes". It's not that higher tension strings can't buzz, but they do tend to do it less than floppy ones. YMMV, YMVCB, etc.
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