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Old 09-21-2010, 07:26 PM
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Teddy Kotick's old bass

Teddy played with Charlie Parker. His former old Czech looking bass is for sale at a shop in Brooklyn for $9500. The bass has been heavily revarnished and has numerous repairs. The oddest repair is a complete insert of a piece of wood into the top where there was obviously a bass bar crack. It's fitted very nicely but I've never seen such a repair. Anyone else heard of such a solution? The added piece is about half an inch wide and fourteen inches long.
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sounds like a long inlaid finger patch, chalk fitted into the front in the same way as a soundpost crack is repaired from the inside. This may have been done as a way to repair the crack without removing the top and bass bar.
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And Teddy played to great affect with the Stan Getz/Jimmy Raney Quintet; get LIVE AT STORYVILLE if you can!
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Teddy played with everybody. That's because everybody dug him. I saw him with Anita O'Day, Paul's former employer.
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Where is there a shop w/ DBs in Brooklyn?
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:52 PM
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Teddy sounded great with Bill Evans, too. He is on a couple of Al and Zoot records that are very much worth getting, hearing and transcribing the bass-lines from. He is a very underrated and appreciated musician who I think really contributed a lot to bass playing in jazz.
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Teddy played with everybody. That's because everybody dug him. I saw him with Anita O'Day, Paul's former employer.
Funny. I never thought of her as my employer, but yeah, I guess. One of the only bright things I did in my younger years of working with some good musicians was make it a point to ask them about their favorite bass players because that helped me do the gigs. Both Anita and Bill loved Teddy as did Zoot, and Getz used to talk about him a bunch too. I always dug him. He was major.
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One of the only bright things I did in my younger years of working with some good musicians was make it a point to ask them about their favorite bass players because that helped me do the gigs.
I don't know what I am not quite getting, and maybe I'm the only one who doesn't get it, but could you explain that?

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Old 09-24-2010, 09:16 AM
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Cause it gives you a handle on what they like to hear for support. Sure, you play like you play, but knowing (for instance) that somebody really digs Butch Warren tells you that you don't want to break the time up during solos etc.
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+1.
It's not about not being yourself, as Ed says, but as in any situation certain players like certain things in terms group effort from the bassist because we're the foundation on which the group is built.
Adaptibility is a huge issues for us. I used to have a house trio gig. I would be playing with the great stride pianist Ralph Sutton on Monday and on Tuesday, Cedar Walton. I think the only thing a lot of the players I've played with had in common (and still do) is that they all swung.

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I saw him with Anita O'Day, Paul's former employer.
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Funny. I never thought of her as my employer, but yeah, I guess.
OK, how's this:
...Anita O'Day, who was the chick who did vocals with the Paul Warburton Band.
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I like that. Too bad she's dead.
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Paul, Ed, thanks for the clarification. I kinda thought so, but then again, obviously not enough.

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I think the only thing a lot of the players I've played with had in common (and still do) is that they all swung.
I'd take groove over chops any day.
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Thank GOD we got that cleared up.
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same bass?

Check out this video w/ Teddy Kotick, Cannonball, Bill Evans, Philly Joe in an old broadcast w/ Lenny Bruce!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VppwX...layer_embedded

Doesn't look like the same bass as your pics here; Ok, What is it?

In the vid it has hat peg tuners and looks darker
BUT, OTOH the bass in brooklyn has been refinished and who knows what else.

Music starts at 3:00, best views of bass at 5:06
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I'm thinking it looks real close in terms of pattern.
I love that clip......brings special memories back to me for sure. Teddy sounded great.
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No, it's not the bass I was talking about but the shop has two of Teddy's basses. One was ready to play and the other was getting worked on.

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