Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Double Bass Forums > Setup & Repair [DB]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Setup & Repair [DB] Exploring the issues involved in setting up and repairing basses, along with luthier recommendations.


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 04-24-2006, 08:57 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NOT USA
Send a message via MSN to chicabass Send a message via Yahoo to chicabass
Temperature fluctuations/stability

I recently (temporarily) installed a thermometer on my bass. so I could accurately gauge the kind of temperature fluctuations that it might be experiencing from time to time.

My question: How much of a change is 'substantial', and how much would the change have to be before I worry about the immediate health and longer-term life of the bass?

Sorry if this was the wrong heading (setup/repair) to have put this under.


chicabass/K`
Sign in to disble this ad
__________________
Fretless bass is a gateway drug that can but only lead to upright addiction.

Last edited by chicabass : 04-24-2006 at 09:14 PM.
  #2  
Old 04-25-2006, 06:35 AM
AES Fine Instruments
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Brewster, NY, USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicabass
I recently (temporarily) installed a thermometer on my bass. so I could accurately gauge the kind of temperature fluctuations that it might be experiencing from time to time.

My question: How much of a change is 'substantial', and how much would the change have to be before I worry about the immediate health and longer-term life of the bass?

Sorry if this was the wrong heading (setup/repair) to have put this under.


chicabass/K`
Temperature change is of less concern than humidity change, which causes wood to expand and contract. In fine museums you will see instruments which graph humidity changes for the purpose of guiding the curators toward keeping humidity levels constant. When Tutunkamen's tomb was opened, after 3000 or so years, all the wooden objects were in pristine condition, and their glue joints were still tight. That's because the humidity was constant the entire time. That said, extreme temperature variations can also cause some problems.
  #3  
Old 04-25-2006, 08:08 AM
Jeff Bollbach Luthier, Inc.
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: freeport, ny
Quote:
Originally Posted by arnoldschnitzer
Temperature change is of less concern than humidity change, which causes wood to expand and contract. In fine museums you will see instruments which graph humidity changes for the purpose of guiding the curators toward keeping humidity levels constant. When Tutunkamen's tomb was opened, after 3000 or so years, all the wooden objects were in pristine condition, and their glue joints were still tight. That's because the humidity was constant the entire time. That said, extreme temperature variations can also cause some problems.
I hear Tutunkamen used Dampits.
__________________
For a super set-up, take your bass to Lex Luthier.

Even Mother Theresa had an agenda.

http://www.jeffbollbach.com/
  #4  
Old 04-25-2006, 08:25 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Hey chicabass,
though all the woods on the bass are effected with the change in the environment, the neck is what suffers the most. That's why I chose a graphite neck for my 4-string. Yes, the sound production is very different from wood, but it is not subject to the environment hence the no warping. But that's just me...
__________________
Bass-icly Me
  #5  
Old 04-25-2006, 08:35 AM
Banned

Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd.
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Perkasie, PA USA
Cool The Neck?

Quote:
Originally Posted by polic
Hey chicabass,
though all the woods on the bass are effected with the change in the environment, the neck is what suffers the most. That's why I chose a graphite neck for my 4-string. Yes, the sound production is very different from wood, but it is not subject to the environment hence the no warping. But that's just me...
Please teach us how and why the neck is effected more than the Top and the Back of the Bass!! I need to hear this! I have never seen a Double Bass Neck split from extra dry weather but I have seen alot of Tops split. The Neck is replacable without value loss to the Bass at all. The Top is the Heart of the Bass and the key value componant.

Maybe you are thinking Guitars, no?
  #6  
Old 04-25-2006, 09:37 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NOT USA
Send a message via MSN to chicabass Send a message via Yahoo to chicabass
Sorry all, I am talking about how different temperatures might affect my double bass.

Just to clarify.


chicabass/K`
__________________
Fretless bass is a gateway drug that can but only lead to upright addiction.
  #7  
Old 04-25-2006, 10:46 AM
Banned

Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd.
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Perkasie, PA USA
Cool Different temps?

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicabass
Sorry all, I am talking about how different temperatures might affect my double bass.

Just to clarify.


chicabass/K`
Is this for indoor, outdoor or in general. The higher the tempeture, the more humidity it can hold. Heat in the winter in your house dries up the air. Air conditioners in the summer cool while extracting water from the air acting as a de-himidifier so my AC/Heating guy tells me. This is why the AC drips outside your window. A humidifier or dehumidifier with control settings indoors can help to regulate the environment for your Bass.
  #8  
Old 04-25-2006, 11:49 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NOT USA
Send a message via MSN to chicabass Send a message via Yahoo to chicabass
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith
"Is this for..."
Really just inside my pokey little flat at the moment - It gets really draughty but I have a nice heater which I've been using as it gets colder. I want to be conscious of not overdoing it with the heater/having the heat fluctuate by ~X degrees too regularly... I can't think it would necessarily be doing the poor instrument any good.
__________________
Fretless bass is a gateway drug that can but only lead to upright addiction.
  #9  
Old 04-25-2006, 12:19 PM
Banned

Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd.
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Perkasie, PA USA
Cool heater?

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicabass
Really just inside my pokey little flat at the moment - It gets really draughty but I have a nice heater which I've been using as it gets colder. I want to be conscious of not overdoing it with the heater/having the heat fluctuate by ~X degrees too regularly... I can't think it would necessarily be doing the poor instrument any good.
Get a humidifier and set it at 35% on automatic. This will help a great deal to prevent you Bass from cracking.
  #10  
Old 04-25-2006, 05:19 PM
AES Fine Instruments
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Brewster, NY, USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bollbach
I hear Tutunkamen used Dampits.
You misread this somewhere. King Tut had Damp Pits.
  #11  
Old 04-25-2006, 08:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bollbach
I hear Tutunkamen used Dampits.

Yeah, but that cat swung like a mother****er.

Have you checked out the sides he did with Amenhotep and Thutmose? Smokin........
  #12  
Old 04-26-2006, 01:33 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: arlington va
yep--albert ammonhotep and thutmose allison
__________________
Skeptical but resigned
  #13  
Old 04-26-2006, 03:55 PM
Supporting Member/Luthier
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Polic- this is the Double Bass side of Talkbass...
__________________
www.nicklloydbasses.com
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:50 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.