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04-08-2006, 09:57 PM
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I've seen this quote in at least 2 sigs being credited to Jaco. Jaco did not come up with this quote. It was Dizzy Dean first, back about 60-70 years ago. Multiple others have said it since then, such as Jaco, also Muhammud Ali.
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04-08-2006, 11:19 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oakland, CA | | But Jaco did invent fretless!
I always thought it was still bragging even if you could back it up. If you can't back it up it's lying. | 
04-09-2006, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Moo But Jaco did invent fretless! | and because of this we still celebrate and practise the religion that has become known as fretlessism
i always thought that qoute was cool and still do even if jaco didnt say it first | 
04-09-2006, 08:09 AM
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as I recall Jaco and Ali weren't exactly light in "confidence." | 
04-09-2006, 08:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | it still is bragging.
as far as ali, hypothetically i would have loved to see him fight tyson when they were both in their prime. | 
04-09-2006, 08:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: forest hills ny | | its not bragging, its advertisment..
"hey.. i can do this, this, this, and that"
thats how i see it anyway 
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04-09-2006, 06:23 PM
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04-09-2006, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok I've seen this quote in at least 2 sigs being credited to Jaco. Jaco did not come up with this quote. It was Dizzy Dean first, back about 60-70 years ago. Multiple others have said it since then, such as Jaco, also Muhammud Ali.
Just so you know. | yeah, but if you heard or read jaco say it, then you can quote it...I'm sure Dizzy didn't say it first either, in humanity's thousands of years of existance | 
04-09-2006, 07:03 PM
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04-09-2006, 07:15 PM
| | | | I only posted this because people were incorrectly giving credit to the wrong person for coming up with a clever little saying. Dizzy said it, he should get the credit for it. It still is bragging though.
If you don't care, don't post in this thread. Geeze, how hard is that? There ya go canopener, you don't care. Congratu-freaking-lations.
More than anything I thought mikeyfingers would want to know. And the other guy with the same quote. | 
04-09-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok If you don't care, don't post in this thread. Geeze, how hard is that? There ya go canopener, you don't care. Congratu-freaking-lations. | Well said, Scott. I'm not too bothered by this topic myself, but I'm totally with you on the above point. If people aren't interested in a topic, why post to say so? It's both rude and arrogant. Who are they to decide what is and isn't worth posting about, anyway? The old rule applies... if you've got nothing to say, then say nothing.
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04-09-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok I only posted this because people were incorrectly giving credit to the wrong person for coming up with a clever little saying. Dizzy said it, he should get the credit for it. It still is bragging though.
If you don't care, don't post in this thread. Geeze, how hard is that? There ya go canopener, you don't care. Congratu-freaking-lations.
More than anything I thought mikeyfingers would want to know. And the other guy with the same quote. | I think someone hasn't gotten their nap today. If I knew you'd get all huffy about it...ah nevermind. Talk about touchy!
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04-09-2006, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by canopener I think someone hasn't gotten their nap today. If I knew you'd get all huffy about it...ah nevermind. Talk about touchy! | Ya, real touchy.
Posting something like 'who cares' in a thread that contains information that may be relevant and interesting for others is detrimental in a number of ways. First and foremost, it puts yourself above everyone else in the thread. You're saying 'I don't care about this, no one else should either'. Also, it shys away those who would otherwise post. Someone could read this, think 'Oh, I have something to add' but then get to your post and not contribute for fear of being reprimanded in the eyes of canopener. Therefore, they don't post. Were this to be forum wide it would cause stagnation, and we wouldn't be able to recognize the TB that we know and love. Finally, the act of typing 'who cares' conveys that you care enough to voice your opinion, which in itself is an oxymoron.
Not touchy at all, I just want to make sure you understand just what your post communicates.
Posting that I must be sleep deprived to disagree and, god forbid, argue with you furthers your own perpetuation of your belief that you are above others. You must learn to read from other people's perspective. Just because we disagree does not mean I haven't gotten my nap, or that I am a baby (nice inference), or that I am wrong.
Edit: Bassybill said it pretty well. 
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04-09-2006, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by canopener LOL | Continue digging that grave, by all means... | 
04-09-2006, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Moo But Jaco did invent fretless!
I always thought it was still bragging even if you could back it up. If you can't back it up it's lying. | No, he didn't. I think it was Tom Hamilton who was playing a fretless electric bass more than a decade before Jaco did. Oh, and not to mention the hundreds of years of other fretless stringed instruments.
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04-09-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnidd1 Who gives a s**t what he said? The important thing is what he played. | saxaphone parts?  | 
04-10-2006, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Saunders No, he didn't. I think it was Tom Hamilton who was playing a fretless electric bass more than a decade before Jaco did. Oh, and not to mention the hundreds of years of other fretless stringed instruments. | I think you'll find Moo was being sarcastic with his earlier post. 
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04-10-2006, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bassybill I think you'll find Moo was being sarcastic with his earlier post.  | I think that applies to all my posts
But yes, I was having some fun with the mythology. | 
04-10-2006, 03:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne, Aus | | | That quote sounds like bragging to me.
I still think it can be bragging if you do back it up, meh.
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