Am I Old?

[Snakeman1066]

I like to think i'm a fiarly open minded guy, and have done my best to raise my children to be as well

so my daughter hands me a mixed CD she made of some of her favorite bands which she proclaims as Goth music

Cd includes:

Rosetta Stone
Mephisto Waltz
Switchblade Symphony
Scream For Tina
Corpus Defecti
Black Atmosphere
The Wake
Eva O Halo Experience
Big Electric Cat
45 Grave

as i'm listening an trying to be open minded all i can think is....Wow these bands have record contracts?

and to my ear thay all sound like the old "New Wave" music of the 80's which i didn't much care for then.....

she grew up listening to Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Kiss, E.L.O., Styx, Kansas, Blue Oyster Cult, Ramones...etc. courtesy of me .... She seems to be digging it

so i can't tell her that i hate this stuff (actually hate is a stiong word as i have heard a few cool bass lines) but it raises the question....

Have I managed to get old?.....lol

[smaughazard]

We all get old: about ten years ago, my two (then) preteen daughters informed me that I only listened to Jurassic rock!

Now, the elder is trying to learn to play bass, and the younger has her iPod full of Beatles and blues (Stevie Ray, Blues Traveler, etc.) so I must have had some influence. I even let them listen to my Zappa collection now.

They still play some new stuff that I detest, so I guess I understand better why my mother nearly had apoplexy when she actually listened to Steppenwolf's lyrics.

What goes around, comes around…

[iamlowsound]

I don't think that you are old. Most of those bands aren't worth the cds that they are printed on. I should also note that 99% of the music I listen to was made in the last 7 or 8 years, I am 21 and often considered a "hipster". Those bands just plain suck.

lowsound

[Snakeman1066]

Originally Posted by iamlowsound

I don't think that you are old. Most of those bands aren't worth the cds that they are printed on. I should also note that 99% of the music I listen to was made in the last 7 or 8 years, I am 21 and often considered a "hipster". Those bands just plain suck.

lowsound

Hipster?......lol

must make me a square...lol

but to be fair my CD Changer is full of Sabbath, Judas Priest, YOB, Sleep, Sasquatch, Orange Goblin, Kyuss, Acid King, Fireball Ministry, Danzig, Misfits, The Stooges, Tool, Rush, Disturbed, Alice Cooper, Kiss, Dio, Monster Magnet, Fu-Manchu, Motorhead, Slayer, Venom, Mercyful Fate, The Sword, and Black Stone Cherry so i was just checking....lol

[Snakeman1066]

Originally Posted by smaughazard

We all get old: about ten years ago, my two (then) preteen daughters informed me that I only listened to Jurassic rock!

Now, the elder is trying to learn to play bass, and the younger has her iPod full of Beatles and blues (Stevie Ray, Blues Traveler, etc.) so I must have had some influence. I even let them listen to my Zappa collection now.

They still play some new stuff that I detest, so I guess I understand better why my mother nearly had apoplexy when she actually listened to Steppenwolf's lyrics.

What goes around, comes around…

I suppose.....lol

My mom intoduced me to the Beatles, Steppenwolf, and Jimi Hendrix...go figure

but she also introduced me to the Bee Gee's, Abba, and Barry Manilow.....lol

Oh and.....Don't eat that yellow Snow.....

[rcarraher]

Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

I like to think i'm a fiarly open minded guy, and have done my best to raise my children to be as well

so my daughter hands me a mixed CD she made of some of her favorite bands which she proclaims as Goth music

Cd includes:

Rosetta Stone
Mephisto Waltz
Switchblade Symphony
Scream For Tina
Corpus Defecti
Black Atmosphere
The Wake
Eva O Halo Experience
Big Electric Cat
45 Grave

as i'm listening an trying to be open minded all i can think is....Wow these bands have record contracts?

and to my ear thay all sound like the old "New Wave" music of the 80's which i didn't much care for then.....

she grew up listening to Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Kiss, E.L.O., Styx, Kansas, Blue Oyster Cult, Ramones...etc. courtesy of me .... She seems to be digging it

so i can't tell her that i hate this stuff (actually hate is a stiong word as i have heard a few cool bass lines) but it raises the question....

Have I managed to get old?.....lol

yes, and yes. Just 'cause your kid listens to it, and you taught her well, doesn't mean they are good. I made my folks listen to Blue Cheer and the Chocolate Watch Band, as well as the Beatles and The Stones. And, even tho' you don't list your age in your profile....actually I think that is definitive proof) , you are either under 15 or old. I'm going wit too old....as am I.


Actually, I still like the Chocolate Watch Band and Blue Cheer. Up yer's mom.

[Snakeman1066]

41 and a grandpa as of December 2008!

[rcarraher]

Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

41 and a grandpa as of December 2008!

54 as of the end of April....I'd have to be to even know who the Chocolate Watch Band was.....

[bluewine]

I'm 56 my kids 21 & 20 have no interest in my generations Music.i wanted to take my 20 year old with me to see Jeff beck and he blew it off.

You got no interest in my generations music , ok, then I have no interest in yours

[Pilgrim]

I found out recently that my daughters didn't know there was any music other than Oldies or Country until they hit Jr. High. Until then they heard oldies if they were riding with me, and country if they were riding with my wife. I think both my kids know every popular rock and R&B song from 1965 through 1980 by heart.

I'm 58 and haven't really followed popular music in 20 years, because much of it has no attraction for me. I hear good contemporary cuts every now and then, but overall I have no interest in it. I'd much rather hear 60's Motown or good surf music than most of what's on the radio today. When I see groups like the Jonas brothers, I can only shudder.

In musical terms I'm old (hell, I'm 58 too!) and have had to accept it, but I've been pursuing blues and jazz, both of which are timeless and require continual learning. My band plays surf and classic rock, both of which people LOVE, so there's no problem with that.

Consider this: today's kids still are familiar with the music of the late 60's. that's 40 years ago. If I had been listening to 40-year old music in 1968 when I started to high school, I'd have been listening to music from 1928.

I'd say rock music from the 60's and 70's has lasted uncommonly well!

[5StringBlues]

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"-Groucho Marx

[rcarraher]

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

I found out recently that my daughters didn't know there was any music other than Oldies or Country until they hit Jr. High. Until then they heard oldies if they were riding with me, and country if they were riding with my wife. I think both my kids know every popular rock and R&B song from 1965 through 1980 by heart.

I'm 58 and haven't really followed popular music in 20 years, because much of it has no attraction for me. I hear good contemporary cuts every now and then, but overall I have no interest in it. I'd much rather hear 60's Motown or good surf music than most of what's on the radio today. When I see groups like the Jonas brothers, I can only shudder.

In musical terms I'm old (hell, I'm 58 too!) and have had to accept it, but I've been pursuing blues and jazz, both of which are timeless and require continual learning. My band plays surf and classic rock, both of which people LOVE, so there's no problem with that.

Consider this: today's kids still are familiar with the music of the late 60's. that's 40 years ago. If I had been listening to 40-year old music in 1968 when I started to high school, I'd have been listening to music from 1928.

I'd say rock music from the 60's and 70's has lasted uncommonly well!

I have no kids, never did. But somehow or another I have made friends with a lot of 20 somethings, usually with a mutual interest in music, literature, or some other common thread. They'll call me up and play me something from the juke box or something they heard on line and its always, "Who did this and whats it called?"" I'm sort of the Cliif Cleburn of music! In return, they will burn stuff for me or actually buy me a CD at Christmas or the dreaded birthday. I tell them, don't send me something you think I'd like, send me something YOU like. Yup, some of it I can't stand, but some of i is every bit as good, if not better than my 60's 70's stuff. Anyway, it keeps my ears young.

[WhisperAPrayer]

Wow,

What an awesome childhood.

But mine's been about the same so far, which is awesome.


Well everbody changes abit,


I like some of the new wave Metal, Punk and a tiny bit of the least amount of Goth.

[Joe Gress]

Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

41 and a grandpa as of December 2008!

OLD FART!

[ggunn]

Originally Posted by smaughazard

They still play some new stuff that I detest, so I guess I understand better why my mother nearly had apoplexy when she actually listened to Steppenwolf's lyrics.

Don't step on the grass, Sam...

[BurningSkies]

Most of the bands listed are actually not very new. They're the goth new wave of about 1995 or so! Rosetta Stone isn't terrible, but for the most, most of that stuff and the other Cleopatra label bands (of which many are listed there) was sort of a joke in the Goth world at the time.

There's some good stuff around, but that's not really it.

[warnergt]

Originally Posted by Snakeman1066

...as i'm listening an trying to be open minded all i can think is....Wow these bands have record contracts?

Heh, exactly. The music industry thinks people aren't buying music
anymore because it is being pirated. The sad truth is simply that what
they are offering sucks.

Even when you hear a good tune, it's the only good tune on the album.

[sobie18]

Rosetta Stone
Mephisto Waltz
Switchblade Symphony
Scream For Tina
Corpus Defecti
Black Atmosphere
The Wake
Eva O Halo Experience
Big Electric Cat
45 Grave


I don't recognize ANY of those band names.

Rosetta Stone is that computer-based language-learning tool, isn't it?

[lunarpollen]

Are you old? Some of the musicians on that CD she made are older than you, and their bands have fans older than you. I'm curious to see the full listing of bands on the CD, it's not common for someone nowadays to say that type of stuff is "goth" anymore ever since the "goth" tag got hijacked by a bunch of crappy techno and buttrock (and techno-buttrock fusion) bands.

I just saw 45 Grave in Oakland week or two ago and they were excellent, they played a great fun set.

You're not old, just out of touch with a certain portion of the musical spectrum, which is not something to feel too awkward about; there is so much music out there, no one can be familiar with or enjoy it all.

But the reason why those bands remind you of new wave stuff is because those bands and new wave both evolved directly from the same musical starting point of punk and post-punk.

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by bluewine

I'm 56 my kids 21 & 20 have no interest in my generations Music.i wanted to take my 20 year old with me to see Jeff beck and he blew it off.

You got no interest in my generations music , ok, then I have no interest in yours

You're correct at pointing out your kids' ignorance and limitations for ignoring other generations' music, and you get back at them by behaving ignorantly and limit yourself by not checking out other generations' music?

OP: There's been bad music in every generation just as there's been good music. Most of that's fairly subjective of course. It doesn't make you old to not like the bad music of current times any more than it makes kids young for disliking bad music of the last generation. Note: I'm not making any judgments on the music listed by either you or your daughter.